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Re: [PATCH] Board statistics dialog
Hi,
I was without internet for few days, I will look for problem. Anyway, information about that bug will be very helpful.
>Воскресенье, 28 июля 2019, 17:04 +03:00 от Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>:
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>Diego,
>
>Please file a bug report for this and include the board file that causes
>this so it's easier for us to figure out what is going on.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Wayne
>
>On 7/27/19 5:06 AM, Diego Herranz wrote:
>> I've been testing this dialog and I think it is a nice addition. Thanks!
>>
>> There seems to be something wrong with the area calculation, though. See
>> image below:
>> area.png
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Diego
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 11:18, Ian McInerney < Ian.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:Ian.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Instead of declaring the 2 static variables separately, I would
>> suggest creating a struct for the settings then store that as the
>> static variable. For an example of this see the
>> dialog_create_array.cpp file. This way if any new options must be
>> added in the future, they can just be added to the struct very easily.
>>
>> -Ian
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM Alexander Shuklin < jasuramme@xxxxxxx
>> <mailto:jasuramme@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> Damn ><,
>> don't use last patch, please.
>> It doesn't count total vias amount. Use this one.
>>
>>
>> Понедельник, 22 июля 2019, 22:14 +03:00 от Alexander Shuklin
>> < jasuramme@xxxxxxx <mailto:jasuramme@xxxxxxx>>:
>>
>> Hi,
>> thanks for sharing experience, as I never used that
>> translations or wxWidgets before. And I have no idea where
>> else could I get that information. ))
>> So, there's the patch with vias information and some tiny
>> improvements.
>>
>>
>> Понедельник, 22 июля 2019, 13:34 +03:00 от Ian McInerney
>> < ian.s.mcinerney@xxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:ian.s.mcinerney@xxxxxxxx>>:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:03 AM Dino Ghilardi
>> < dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
>> < http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alexander,
>>
>> One possible solution for the translation could be
>> put the ":" in a
>> different column of the table and right-align the
>> field description text
>> (so all the colons will be aligned). A rapid google
>> search shown that in
>> French and Vietnamese there should be a space before
>> the colon, while in
>> the rest of the world there is not, so having the
>> translation for the
>> ":" word seems to make sense. Also another question
>> arises: Is there
>> some language in which the colon should be another
>> character before the
>> word? (I'm thinking about spanish where the question
>> mark upside-down
>> appears before a question...)? ...conclusion:
>> keeping "Height:" and
>> "Height" as two different words seem to be the
>> solution that gives
>> maximum flexibility to translators.
>>
>>
>> This actually doesn't give them as much flexibility.
>> When translations are done, they need to examine the
>> entire string that needs translating, so the ":"
>> character should be included in the string. Separating
>> out the two portions is the equivalent of saying that
>> every lanugage will follow the same compositional rules.
>>
>>
>> Another possible solution (probably better then the
>> one above since it
>> just removes the problem) is to remove the ":" and
>> have the cell borders
>> in a different color, just like the tables in the
>> "board setup" dialog
>> (so that you can also take a look at that code to
>> solve also the color
>> problem seeing how it was solved there). The
>> advantage of this approach
>> is also having a more consistent "look" through all
>> the dialogs.
>>
>>
>>
>> P.S. (a little bit off-topic):
>> If you move the statistic window and check/uncheck
>> one of the checkboxes
>> ("subctract holes...." or "Exclude components...")
>> the window "jumps" to
>> the center of the screen (its default position on
>> open): do you have
>> also this behaviour or it is just on my debian-linux
>> with gtk3?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dino.
>>
>> On 22/07/19 10:13, Alexander Shuklin wrote:
>> > Hi!
>> > I'll have a look to add vias count to dialog.
>> > There's some questions:
>> >
>> > 1)I don't have too much experience with wxdialogs.
>> There was commit on
>> > master, which says:
>> > >> remove settings for fg/bg color: the result is
>> unpredictable: was
>> > black texts on black background on my computer.
>> > And now I have all tables with data just in white
>> boxes. Is it how it
>> > meant to be, or just some misbehavior on different
>> systems? I use
>> > archlinux x64 OS.
>> > there's screenshot in attachment
>> >
>> > 2) Can we use something like _( "Height" ) + ":"
>> for translation, not _(
>> > "Height:" )? As far as I understand, now we will
>> need to have 2
>> > translations, first for "Height" and second for
>> "Height:" but that's
>> > basically same word.
>> >
>> > Воскресенье, 21 июля 2019, 23:42 +03:00 от
>> Dino Ghilardi
>> > <dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
>> < http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx >>:
>> >
>> > Makes sense.
>> > Instead of a generic "via count" a more
>> complete table similar to the
>> > one generated in the drill report file could
>> be useful, but may be it
>> > can became quite long if a lot of different
>> drill sizes are used (ok,
>> > scrollbars are made to handle that).
>> > Also having "vias", "blind vias" and
>> "microvias" count man make sense
>> > (or at least having something like "microvias
>> used: yes/no"), just to
>> > have in board statistics the information about
>> the need of an advanced
>> > pcb manufacturing process.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Dino.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21/07/19 20:54, Mark Roszko wrote:
>> > > > Since making every hole in the pcb costs
>> time, manufacturers
>> > > calculate the price of the PCB using also
>> that number.
>> > >
>> > > A long time ago, holes cost alot. These
>> days if your manufacturer is
>> > > charging alot per hole, you should run far
>> away. Usually
>> > manufactuers
>> > > include 20k-40k holes in the base price per
>> panel before they start
>> > > charging you tiny penny amounts for more in
>> some increments of
>> > > thousands. The CNC machines these days as
>> blazing fast at making the
>> > > holes required and they charge more for the
>> drill bit being worn
>> > down
>> > > than the time.
>> > >
>> > > What does actually cost money is via type
>> and size. Blind vias make
>> > > layer stackups a pain in the butt and micro
>> vias needing lasers.
>> > > And also going below some via size can
>> significantly add cost
>> > even if
>> > > not at microvia size because it requires
>> different machines with
>> > more
>> > > precision and smaller drill bits.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If anything I would say to break down the
>> statistics based on via
>> > type.
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:55 PM Dino Ghilardi
>> > <dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
>> < http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx >
>> <mailto:dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
>> < http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx >>
>> > > <mailto:dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
>> < http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx >>>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I just tried the board statistics dialog
>> and looks good, I like it.
>> > >
>> > > A thing I'd like to have to make it better
>> is adding the number
>> > of vias
>> > > to the statistics: Since making every hole
>> in the pcb costs time,
>> > > manufacturers calculate the price of the
>> PCB using also that number.
>> > >
>> > > Also the option to save or print a text
>> with the statistics report
>> > > would
>> > > be nice.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Dino.
>> > >
>> >
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>> > Alexander Shuklin
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