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Re: [PATCH] Board statistics dialog

 

To work with the current 6.0 development code, just use the master branch
at its HEAD.

-Ian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:32 PM Alexander Shuklin <jasuramme@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

>
> Hi! Thanks for that.
> Currently I cannot reproduce the bug.
> I think it can be connected to KiCad 6.0.0-rc1 tag. I will compile and
> look.
> Can somebody please explain me about 6.0 version tag? I mean, should I
> look for bugs in that tag or just follow master?
> Sorry if that's stupid question. I really don't understand that )))
>
> Понедельник, 29 июля 2019, 21:20 +03:00 от Diego Herranz <
> diegoherranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1838325
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 at 15:04, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3astambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> Diego,
>
> Please file a bug report for this and include the board file that causes
> this so it's easier for us to figure out what is going on.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/27/19 5:06 AM, Diego Herranz wrote:
> > I've been testing this dialog and I think it is a nice addition. Thanks!
> >
> > There seems to be something wrong with the area calculation, though. See
> > image below:
> > area.png
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Diego
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 11:18, Ian McInerney <Ian.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aIan.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:Ian.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aIan.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> >     Alexander,
> >
> >     Instead of declaring the 2 static variables separately, I would
> >     suggest creating a struct for the settings then store that as the
> >     static variable. For an example of this see the
> >     dialog_create_array.cpp file. This way if any new options must be
> >     added in the future, they can just be added to the struct very
> easily.
> >
> >     -Ian
> >
> >     On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM Alexander Shuklin <jasuramme@xxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3ajasuramme@xxxxxxx>
> >     <mailto:jasuramme@xxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3ajasuramme@xxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> >         Damn ><,
> >         don't use last patch, please.
> >         It doesn't count total vias amount. Use this one.
> >
> >
> >             Понедельник, 22 июля 2019, 22:14 +03:00 от Alexander Shuklin
> >             <jasuramme@xxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3ajasuramme@xxxxxxx> <mailto:
> jasuramme@xxxxxxx <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3ajasuramme@xxxxxxx>
> >>:
> >
> >             Hi,
> >             thanks for sharing experience, as I never used that
> >             translations or wxWidgets before. And I have no idea where
> >             else could I get that information. ))
> >             So, there's the patch with vias information and some tiny
> >             improvements.
> >
> >
> >                 Понедельник, 22 июля 2019, 13:34 +03:00 от Ian McInerney
> >                 <ian.s.mcinerney@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aian.s.mcinerney@xxxxxxxx>
> >                 <mailto:ian.s.mcinerney@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aian.s.mcinerney@xxxxxxxx>>>:
> >
> >
> >
> >                 On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:03 AM Dino Ghilardi
> >                 <dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>
> >                 <
> http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>>
> >                 wrote:
> >
> >                     Hi Alexander,
> >
> >                     One possible solution for the translation could be
> >                     put the ":" in a
> >                     different column of the table and right-align the
> >                     field description text
> >                     (so all the colons will be aligned). A rapid google
> >                     search shown that in
> >                     French and Vietnamese there should be a space before
> >                     the colon, while in
> >                     the rest of the world there is not, so having the
> >                     translation for the
> >                     ":" word seems to make sense. Also another question
> >                     arises: Is there
> >                     some language in which the colon should be another
> >                     character before the
> >                     word? (I'm thinking about spanish where the question
> >                     mark upside-down
> >                     appears before a question...)? ...conclusion:
> >                     keeping "Height:" and
> >                     "Height" as two different words seem to be the
> >                     solution that gives
> >                     maximum flexibility to translators.
> >
> >
> >                 This actually doesn't give them as much flexibility.
> >                 When translations are done, they need to examine the
> >                 entire string that needs translating, so the ":"
> >                 character should be included in the string. Separating
> >                 out the two portions is the equivalent of saying that
> >                 every lanugage will follow the same compositional rules.
> >
> >
> >                     Another possible solution (probably better then the
> >                     one above since it
> >                     just removes the problem) is to remove the ":" and
> >                     have the cell borders
> >                     in a different color, just like the tables in the
> >                     "board setup" dialog
> >                     (so that you can also take a look at that code to
> >                     solve also the color
> >                     problem seeing how it was solved there). The
> >                     advantage of this approach
> >                     is also having a more consistent "look" through all
> >                     the dialogs.
> >
> >
> >
> >                     P.S. (a little bit off-topic):
> >                     If you move the statistic window and check/uncheck
> >                     one of the checkboxes
> >                     ("subctract holes...." or "Exclude components...")
> >                     the window "jumps" to
> >                     the center of the screen (its default position on
> >                     open): do you have
> >                     also this behaviour or it is just on my debian-linux
> >                     with gtk3?
> >
> >
> >                     Cheers,
> >                     Dino.
> >
> >                     On 22/07/19 10:13, Alexander Shuklin wrote:
> >                     > Hi!
> >                     > I'll have a look to add vias count to dialog.
> >                     > There's some questions:
> >                     >
> >                     > 1)I don't have too much experience with wxdialogs.
> >                     There was commit on
> >                     > master, which says:
> >                     >  >> remove settings for fg/bg color: the result is
> >                     unpredictable: was
> >                     > black texts on black background on my computer.
> >                     > And now I have all tables with data just in white
> >                     boxes. Is it how it
> >                     > meant to be, or just some misbehavior on different
> >                     systems? I use
> >                     > archlinux x64 OS.
> >                     > there's screenshot in attachment
> >                     >
> >                     > 2) Can we use something like _( "Height" ) + ":"
> >                     for translation, not _(
> >                     > "Height:" )? As far as I understand, now we will
> >                     need to have 2
> >                     > translations, first for "Height" and second for
> >                     "Height:" but that's
> >                     > basically same word.
> >                     >
> >                     >     Воскресенье, 21 июля 2019, 23:42 +03:00 от
> >                     Dino Ghilardi
> >                     >     <dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>
> >                     <
> http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>>:
> >                     >
> >                     >     Makes sense.
> >                     >     Instead of a generic "via count" a more
> >                     complete table similar to the
> >                     >     one generated in the drill report file could
> >                     be useful, but may be it
> >                     >     can became quite long if a lot of different
> >                     drill sizes are used (ok,
> >                     >     scrollbars are made to handle that).
> >                     >     Also having "vias", "blind vias" and
> >                     "microvias" count man make sense
> >                     >     (or at least having something like "microvias
> >                     used: yes/no"), just to
> >                     >     have in board statistics the information about
> >                     the need of an advanced
> >                     >     pcb manufacturing process.
> >                     >
> >                     >
> >                     >     Cheers,
> >                     >     Dino.
> >                     >
> >                     >
> >                     >     On 21/07/19 20:54, Mark Roszko wrote:
> >                     >      > > Since making every hole in the pcb costs
> >                     time,  manufacturers
> >                     >      > calculate the price of the PCB using also
> >                     that number.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > A long time ago, holes cost alot. These
> >                     days if your manufacturer is
> >                     >      > charging alot per hole, you should run far
> >                     away. Usually
> >                     >     manufactuers
> >                     >      > include 20k-40k holes in the base price per
> >                     panel before they start
> >                     >      > charging you tiny penny amounts for more in
> >                     some increments of
> >                     >      > thousands. The CNC machines these days as
> >                     blazing fast at making the
> >                     >      > holes required and they charge more for the
> >                     drill bit being worn
> >                     >     down
> >                     >      > than the time.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > What does actually cost money is via type
> >                     and size. Blind vias make
> >                     >      > layer stackups a pain in the butt and micro
> >                     vias needing lasers.
> >                     >      > And also going below some via size can
> >                     significantly add cost
> >                     >     even if
> >                     >      > not at microvia size because it requires
> >                     different machines with
> >                     >     more
> >                     >      > precision and smaller drill bits.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > If anything I would say to break down the
> >                     statistics based on via
> >                     >     type.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:55 PM Dino
> Ghilardi
> >                     >     <dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>
> >                     <
> http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>
> >                     <mailto:dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>
> >                     <
> http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>>
> >                     >      > <mailto:dino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx
> <//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>
> >                     <
> http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adino.ghilardi@xxxxxxxx>>>
> >                     wrote:
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > I just tried the board statistics dialog
> >                     and looks good, I like it.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > A thing I'd like to have to make it better
> >                     is adding the number
> >                     >     of vias
> >                     >      > to the statistics: Since making every hole
> >                     in the pcb costs time,
> >                     >      > manufacturers calculate the price of the
> >                     PCB using also that number.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > Also the option to save or print a text
> >                     with the statistics report
> >                     >      > would
> >                     >      > be nice.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      >
> >                     >      > Cheers,
> >                     >      > Dino.
> >                     >      >
> >                     >
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