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[Robert Collins <robertc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Gary Poster <gary.poster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> We put his thoughts, which we have largely incorporated; and some
> implementation notes on separate pages, so the "Thoughts?" section is
> largely blank once again.  Thoughts are again welcome, though we will
> soon (end of week, say?) regard this as having received enough attention
> for us to proceed.

I may not get to it today (which is my Friday) but I will re-read the LEP soon.

> We diverged from Robert's suggestions in a few points that we know of:
>
>  * We still plan to have lpsetup and lp-dev-utils separate.  Rationale
> is listed in the LEP, but for convenience:

Thats fine; it was at most a suggestion :)

>   * lp-dev-utils is more for lxc container and lpsetup is more for host.
>   * Moving lpsetup to lp-dev-utils is a non-trivial task because it
> means packaging lp-dev-utils for lucid and precise.

Note that lp-dev-utils should be packaged too, so its a bit of a
microoptimisation to note that it would need packaging :)

>  * Robert encouraged us to not support non-LXC environments, for a
> tighter focus.  A non-LXC environment is very valuable (to us!) when you
> want to determine whether a problem is specific to LXC, so we kept it.
> He already approved this, I think.

I did, yes.

>  * Robert encouraged us to only support lightweight checkouts, and not
> branches (for colocated use or otherwise), again for a tighter focus.
> We felt we mostly had the code for branches anyway, and we knew some
> people (Aaron, for instance) liked and used colocated branches, so we
> wanted to keep them.  That said, this is perhaps a maintenance burden,
> and perhaps it would be appropriate to push back on us here, so we'll
> certainly listen.

I think I said specifically that:
 - bzr's colocated branch support is very new and shiny
 - and not well tested or integrated with LP

I'm happy if you want to support it as an option, but please make the
default to be lightweight checkouts.

Cheers,
Rob