RE: launchpad-users Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17

[whiteleo <shizhe012003@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> Subject: launchpad-users Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17
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> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:00:09 +0000
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia)
> 2. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Christian Robottom Reis)
> 3. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Joseph Price)
> 4. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Sarah Hobbs)
> 5. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia)
> 6. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Sarah Hobbs)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:17:55 -0500
> From: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <palopezv@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions
> To: launchpad-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <1197980276.11523.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 22:52 +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
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> > Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote:
> > > * Add universe/blah to the Section(s) in debian/control. (No luck trying
> > > with multiverse, but I haven't found a explicit warning about these
> > > though, so my vmware-package crossport ended up in main, unsightly even
> > > if it didn't work for some reason I have found time to debug).
> > >
> >
> > This is now unneeded - the components in PPAs were blown away a few
> > releases ago, and everything gets put into 'main'. However, this 'main'
> > is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat covered in the quick start
> > guide, although it does not explicitly say that ppa main != ubuntu main.
> >
> > Hobbsee
>
> Thats good to known. BTW, would you care to check why I was banned from
> #ubuntu+1 (that was the later the same day last time we exchanged in IRC
> [I'm vorbote in Freenode])I concede I was sleepy at the time but whoever
> did it doesn't deserve oprator status (I won't talk about #ubuntu-es,
> that channel is like a personal club if still handled by the pelicano
> character.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alejo
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:44:21 -0200
> From: Christian Robottom Reis <kiko@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions
> To: Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee@xxxxxxxxxx>, Mark Shuttleworth
> <mark@xxxxxxxxxx>, Celso Providelo <cprov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: launchpad-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <20071218124421.GA6863@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:52:27PM +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
> > This is now unneeded - the components in PPAs were blown away a few
> > releases ago, and everything gets put into 'main'. However, this 'main'
> > is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat covered in the quick start
> > guide, although it does not explicitly say that ppa main != ubuntu main.
>
> We could rename main to only or single or something, for PPAs, perhaps.
> It might still be confusing though.
>
> Hmmm. We could also call the component "ppa" and use that as the
> differentiating mechanism to Ubuntu primary. Is that a crazy idea?
> --
> Christian Robottom Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:33:14 +0000
> From: Joseph Price <pricechild@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions
> To: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <palopezv@xxxxxxxxx>,
> launchpad-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <1197999194.6052.1.camel@john>
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> On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 07:17 -0500, Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote:
> > BTW, would you care to check why I was banned from
> > #ubuntu+1 (that was the later the same day last time we exchanged in IRC
> > [I'm vorbote in Freenode])I concede I was sleepy at the time but whoever
> > did it doesn't deserve oprator status (I won't talk about #ubuntu-es,
> > that channel is like a personal club if still handled by the pelicano
> > character.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Alejo
> Please feel free to come into #ubuntu-ops on irc.freenode.net to discuss
> this.
>
> Pricey
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:30:10 +1100
> From: Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions
> To: Mark Shuttleworth <mark@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Celso Providelo <cprov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> launchpad-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <47687422.5090008@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> > Christian Robottom Reis wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:52:27PM +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is now unneeded - the components in PPAs were blown away a few
> >>> releases ago, and everything gets put into 'main'. However, this 'main'
> >>> is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat covered in the quick start
> >>> guide, although it does not explicitly say that ppa main != ubuntu main.
> >>>
> >>
> >> We could rename main to only or single or something, for PPAs, perhaps.
> >> It might still be confusing though.
> >>
> >> Hmmm. We could also call the component "ppa" and use that as the
> >> differentiating mechanism to Ubuntu primary. Is that a crazy idea?
> >>
> > I'd prefer that PPAs aren't additional complexity for new users and
> > developers. Pushing everything to main simplifies things for people who
> > don't know about components, making it a new component could have the
> > opposite effect.
> >
> However, clearly a lot of people are used to having multiple components,
> and so get confused about why the package that is normally in universe,
> in the ubuntu repositories, shows up in main now. This can probably be
> solved with better documentation.
>
> Hobbsee
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:57:32 -0500
> From: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <palopezv@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions
> To: Mark Shuttleworth <mark@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Celso Providelo <cprov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sarah Hobbs
> <hobbsee@xxxxxxxxxx>, launchpad-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <1198033052.9838.28.camel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 14:53 +0000, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> > >
> > I'd prefer that PPAs aren't additional complexity for new users and
> > developers. Pushing everything to main simplifies things for people
> > who don't know about components, making it a new component could have
> > the opposite effect.
>
> I agree that simplicity is best, but main does have a connotation of
> official support that might cause wrong assumptions among those people
> that use the material we place in our ppas but don't know the process
> involved in creating such.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:36:54 +1100
> From: Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions
> To: Joseph Price <pricechild@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: launchpad-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <476891D6.6090607@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Joseph Price wrote:
> > Please feel free to come into #ubuntu-ops on irc.freenode.net to discuss
> > this.
> >
> > Pricey
> >
> Already resolved via private email, thanks.
>
> Hobbsee
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