[Launchpad-users] Which Launchpad instance should launchpadlib access by default?

[Leonard Richardson <leonard.richardson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Right now, if you run this code:

>>> from launchpadlib.launchpad import Launchpad
>>> l = Launchpad.login_with("my app")
>>> print l.bugs[714043].description

It'll run against staging.launchpad.net. To run against the production 
server you'll need to pass service_root="production" into login_with(). 
This causes confusion if you don't know what's going on--your changes to 
the production server are reverted, and the data is slightly out of date.

In bug 714043 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpadlib/+bug/714043), 
Martin Pool suggested changing the default to production.

I wrote a branch 
(https://code.launchpad.net/~leonardr/launchpadlib/bug-714043/+merge/48842) 
which preserves staging as the default, but prints a warning whenever 
the default is used. My branch also makes production the default for 
*anonymous* access. Anonymous access is read-only, so you can't break 
anything. You might as well go against production and get the most 
recent data.

Martin prefers his solution and I prefer mine. Since it comes down to 
what the majority of developers would prefer, I'd like to get feedback 
from the community at large. If you have a strong opinion one way or the 
other, please leave a comment in bug 714043.

Summary of my position: one purpose of the staging server is to let 
users try things out without ruining their data. Developing a 
launchpadlib script is exactly the kind of thing you'd want to do on a 
staging server, since a bug in your script can ruin your data. The 
warning may be annoying to experienced developers, but it's useful to 
inexperienced developers, and it gives you a reminder that you'll need 
to switch to production for your changes to take effect in the real world.

I'll let Martin summarize his own position, but here's my stab at it:

1. Developers in general want to work against production, and printing 
this warning will just remind them to change it, which they will do 
immediately.
2. Making production the default everywhere maintains consistency 
between anonymous and authenticated access.
3. Other web service providers that publish client libraries don't have 
the client library go against a staging server by default.

Again, please leave your comments in bug 714043 so we have a unified 
record of the discussion: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpadlib/+bug/714043

Leonard