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[Loïc Minier <loic.minier@xxxxxxxxxx>]

        Hey

 Also at:
 https://wiki.linaro.org/EngineeringUnits/Management/Meetings/2011-03-28

   Cheers,

== Attendees ==

 * Andy Green
 * Angus Ainslie
 * Alexander Sack
 * Loïc Minier
 * Jesse Barker
 * James Westby
 * Scott Bambrough
 * David Rusling
 * Christian Reis
 * Paul McKenney
 * Paul Larson

== Minutes ==

 * Actions from previous meeting
   * DONE: David and Jesse documented memory management plans in wiki pages
     * Need to expand for TSC
   * DONE: David got in touch with Arnd, Nicolas and Paul
     * Got a good list of names
     * Plans to have discussions at ELC etc.
       * Paul only there on Monday
       * Jesse talking on Tuesday
       * Jesse will include Paul in smaller peer to peer discussions on Monday
       * Covering other chips than Mali in discussions?
         * Definitely need to
         * Other vendors might not be at ELC though
   * CARRIEDOVER: David to check whether we have a Panda in Cambridge for Ramana
     * David checked recently, but Kiko just handed some to Matt Zimmermann
   * CARRIEDOVER: Steve and Loïc to poke Lamont on whether we have enough Pandas for armhf

 * Reminder: next Thursday call at 9:30 UTC

 * Next cycle's top priority: graphics
   * Memory management summit during Linaro@UDS
   * Can start talking at ELC, followup in Budapest, and then at Plumbers
   * Name?
     * Perhaps Embedded Memory Management Summit?
     * There's already a mm mini-sumit during kernel summit -- so invitation only
       * Main topic is virtual memory management (in processes etc.
       * This could be a side topic, but it'd be better to have a consensus of what we'd like to change before bringing this up during the mm mini-summit
   * Jesse to own the summit with help from Kiko  :-)
       * Paul McK and Arnd to help Jesse in meeting the relevant people at ELC

 * Would like to move some people from the KWG to Jesse's team to work on the topics of graphics mm, perhaps part time people too
   * ACTION: Paul to hand Jesse and Kiko a list of possible candidates

 * Improving the requirements process
   * Example page [[Cycles/1111/TechnicalTopics/Graphics]] shows that this is higher level agreement on what needs to be worked on
   * Also trying to capture what recurring work each team is responsible of (e.g. maintaining this or that software, fixing bugs etc.)

 * Overcoming the perception that Linaro only delivers every six months
   * Would like to release a source bundle every month
     * Obviously includes toolchain and kernels
     * Includes power management stuff
     * Would need to release kernel tarballs
     * Need to QA that these things work together (stuff can be built using this toolchain, tools can be used with this kernel etc.)
   * Kiko gives the example of GNOME source releases http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.14/ http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/platform/2.14/2.14.0/sources/
   * The contents would be dynamic; linux-linaro and gcc-linaro will remain present for a while, but with other changes, all changes might be upstream at some point (e.g. binutils, valgrind etc.)
     * For instance could release a powertop-linaro.tar.gz one month and once upstream merges all changes, copy their tarball into our release
     * Paul McK suggests we could also publish git trees
       * Kiko and David would like to provide tarballs as it's a clean deliverable and consumable by distros
     * Risk that we take too much time to QA releases instead of doing upstream work
       * However in practice semi-releases happened in the form of uploads to Ubuntu
     * Stuff is also getting upstream quickly, so does it make sense to release standalone when this could be downloaded straight from upstream?
     * Would be good to partner with multiple distros and not just Ubuntu for testing and integration
 * ACTION: Paul McK, Kiko, Loïc to discuss this topic further in a separate call

== Actions from this meeting ==

 * CARRIEDOVER: David to bring Panda to Ramana on Friday
 * CARRIEDOVER: Steve and Loïc to poke Lamont on whether we have enough Pandas for armhf
 * ACTION: Paul to hand Jesse and Kiko a list of possible candidates
 * ACTION: Paul McK, Kiko, Loïc to discuss KWG releases further in a separate call

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Loïc Minier