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Minutes from tech leads call 2011-03-31

 

        Hi

 Also at:
   https://wiki.linaro.org/EngineeringUnits/Management/Meetings/2011-03-31

   Cheers,

== Agenda ==

 * No specific topic brought up before the call

== Actions from previous meeting ==

 * CARRIEDOVER: David to bring Panda to Ramana on Friday
 * CARRIEDOVER: Steve and Loïc to poke Lamont on whether we have enough Pandas for armhf
 * ACTION: Paul to hand Jesse and Kiko a list of possible candidates
 * ACTION: Paul McK, Kiko, Loïc to discuss KWG releases further in a separate call

== Attendees ==

 * Andy Green
 * Sachin Gupta
 * Loïc Minier
 * David Rusling
 * Christian Reis
 * Michael Hope
 * Amit Kucheria

== Minutes ==

 * CARRIEDOVER: David to bring Panda to Ramana on Friday
 * CARRIEDOVER: Steve and Loïc to poke Lamont on whether we have enough Pandas for armhf
 * CARRIEDOVER: Paul to hand Jesse and Kiko a list of possible candidates
 * INPROGRESS: Paul McK, Kiko, Loïc to discuss KWG releases further in a separate call

 * Michael Hope received the pandaboards, cool
   * Two issues: one died with LEDs off, and the other one has a flashing LED
   * ACTION: Michael Hope to file bugs on Panda issues
   * ACTION: Andy to followup on the Panda bugs

 * Michael can't build gcc on natty due to multiarch; this is a known bug which got worked around in the packaging
   * ACTION: Michael to followup with Steve on gcc issues with multiarch
   * Michael also curious on whether this is going upstream

 * Michael would like to switch to LEB supported boards, so low cost boards, but the ARM ones aren't cheap enough, despite being significantly cheaper
   * OMAP4 is too much work
   * ARM is too expensive so wont make it to a LEB
   * Could use some qemu-kvm model, but wouldn't run on real hardware
   * Could also use the OMAP "features" bitfield to disable some OMAP subsystems (Andy Green's idea)
   * Could also do OMAP3, which is working today, but that's not A9
   * ACTION: Kiko to bring up Elba as a possible LEB to mgt
   * ACTION: David and Kiko to put options for QEMU A9 emulation forward to the TSC agenda

 * Michael ran out of time presenting the technical topics
   * David and Kiko are scheduling time to discuss with Michael and all three will bring up the remaining topics to the TSC

 * Google I/O conflicts with Linaro@UDS - Kiko
   * Important to network with Android / Google people -- engineer to engineer in particular
   * How do we get an invite?  Maybe CEOs like George or Mark got one?
 * Andy was invited as a speaker for a talk on Android in an Android Summit run by 0xlabs in Taipei
   * Might be a good way to meet Google folks
   * Andy doesn't know Android though
   * ACTION: Kiko to discuss attendance of Google I/O on mgt

 * Kiko would like the KWG to maintain an official linux-linaro-android branch which the landing teams would base on
   * Strawman: could we just merge the Android patchset?
     * Very intrusive
     * Very risky policitically
     * Consistent with our goals of unifying kernels
     * Unlikely to fly with multiple people
   * Is it possible to keep patches with both a mainline flavor, and then another patch for Android integration?
     * Needs double the testing
   * Amit mentions http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/android-wakelock-solution.html which seems to say we could merge all Android drivers *now*!
     * ACTION: Loïc and Kiko to discuss Android situation with John Stultz; invite Andy Green

== Actions from this meeting ==

 * CARRIEDOVER: David to bring Panda to Ramana on Friday
 * CARRIEDOVER: Steve and Loïc to poke Lamont on whether we have enough Pandas for armhf
 * CARRIEDOVER: Paul to hand Jesse and Kiko a list of possible candidates
 * INPROGRESS: Paul McK, Kiko, Loïc to discuss KWG releases further in a separate call
 * ACTION: Michael Hope to file bugs on Panda issues
 * ACTION: Andy to followup on the Panda bugs
 * ACTION: Kiko to bring up Elba as a possible LEB to mgt
 * ACTION: David and Kiko to put options for QEMU A9 emulation forward to the TSC agenda

-- 
Loïc Minier