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Re: What is a healthy requirement?
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Mounir Bsaibes
<mounir.bsaibes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:34 PM, James Westby <james.westby@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>> Hi Mounir,
>>
>> I was told that the idea for the healthcheck originally came from you
>> :-)
>>
>> I was told it was for displaying "is everything with this blueprint ok?"
>> Anything that isn't can then be flagged for PM attention.
>>
>> Therefore we are interested in the sorts of things that you guys are
>> interested in finding out about.
>>
>> Firstly we are looking at cards,
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> For the cards I think the health check should help us decide whether the
> card can be moved to Ready state from Planned state in order to start the
> implementation.
> What Mathias has looks very good. But, I feel what is missing is the
> priority field ( which helps us set the priority on the blueprints that will
> implement the card) and the initial sizing that will help us decide on how
> many to assign to implement the card. Not sure whether others feel that
> these fields are needed or not ( if hard to implement, I think we can live
> without them).
The priority and size information is in the kanban card, so that is
pretty easy to do.
> The link to the description whether it is a wiki or a Papyrs link also is
> important, so the engineers have a place to start from.
Kiko was pretty clear about not wanting links to the Papyrs or other
documents and wants the data pulled in to status.linaro.org to hide
the planning documents. The should be a basic API for the Papyrs
service now so I can probably start working on that.
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>> but we will look at blueprints later,
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>
> For blueprints,
> Remember each blueprint has to have a link to point back to the card that
> the blueprint is supposed to implement. Many blueprints can point back to
> the same card.
Yes, Joey has filled in the requirements id for every kanban card and
we will link the blueprints to them using the whiteboard, like this:
"Meta:
Roadmap id: GWG2011-BENCHMARK-DASHBOARD"
On a side note, I think that the Headline: and Acceptance criteria:
fields also should go under the Meta: section of the whiteboard, since
that's a mechanism in Launchpad that allows for automatically
harvesting that information.
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> This is what come to mind for blueprints, oh also Acceptance and Headline
> fields ( if we keep needing the Headline )
> Cheers,
> Mounir
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>>
>> as there are probably more problems that can arise there.
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>> Thanks,
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:04:28 -0500, Mounir Bsaibes
>> <mounir.bsaibes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > What was the original thought about the health check?
>> > Was it to know whether the card is set to move from Planned state to
>> > Ready
>> > state and to start the blueprinting process?
>> > If so, maybe the priority field should be checked as well as the initial
>> > estimate.
>> > Mounir
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Joey Stanford <joey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hmm,
>> > >
>> > > So in the new format we have a title, a link, a reference id, and a
>> > > type.
>> > >
>> > > The link is to a public r/o view of the paprys entry. So instead of
>> > > having this in the kanbantool it's now in Papyrs (and possibly in the
>> > > future in the wiki instead)
>> > >
>> > > So I would assume at this point that the health check should really
>> > > focus on BPs in LP since there is no easy way I can think of to do a
>> > > card health check. i.e. this task for you might have just gotten a
>> > > lot easier.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Mattias Backman
>> > > <mattias.backman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am working on the roadmap progress reporting for status.linaro.org
>> > > > and would like to ask what you would like to have in the requirement
>> > > > health check.
>> > > >
>> > > > Have a look at this requirement card as an example of what I mean.
>> > > > http://status.linaro.org/11.11/roadmap-card-295901.html
>> > > >
>> > > > What information needs to be there so work can be started? What
>> > > > needs
>> > > > to be linked to or reviewed by someone etc?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > >
>> > > > Mattias
>> > > >
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