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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

 

3esmit (3esmit) wrote on 2012-01-26: 	#271
"We like linux, we believe in an open source future, where open source
is the best. We want all to be perfect, we dont want Mac."

I like beautiful girls. I believe in an open future, where open
relationships are the best and I can have sex with every girl I see,
without her boyfriend wanting to shoot me.

What do my perfect future and your perfect future have in common?
They're both never going to happen. Open source has no future and open
source will never be the best.

Eric B (eric-broszeit) wrote on 2012-01-26: 	#273
"For the most part, this has been fixed. Only a few applications are still
listed, and I would not be surprised if they are fixed as well. I don't use
them to check."

No, only a few applications actually do work. Most application don't
work and will never work. Do you now how many applications are available
in Ubuntu Software Centre? Install all of them, every single application
and start testing all of them. Then there are applications which aren't
even available in Ubuntu Software Centre. Start testing those
applications too. A clipboard should work for EVERY application, not
just a part of the applications which are installed by default.

That's why it shouldn't be fixed on a per-app basis, but it should be
fixed in the core. That's how it works in other operating systems and
that's how it belongs to work. In Mac OS X and Windows you can install
every application you want and it doesn't matter where the application
comes from, it just works, without the developer of the application
having to think about implementing a clipboard. That's how it should
work!

You can expect from all developers to implement a clipboard. That's why
only a few application for Linux have the clipboard implemented. Just
search for replies from a person called pyrates in this bug report. He
knows what he's talking about. He's one the few who knows how it should
be implemented and who's able to explain why the current implementation
is so bad and completely wrong.

ScislaC (scislac) wrote 20 hours ago: 	#274
"Or one could install a clipboard manager... your "only" solution isn't really the only solution."

Clipboard managers don't work properly. They crash and don't support
everything which can be copied (they only support text or text and
files, but it should support everything: text, files, images, parts of
an audio file, parts cut from a movie). Most of them aren't updated
anymore. The developer started its project five years ago, never
finished it. It's designed for a five years old Linux distribution and
it haven't been updated ever since. No one is maintaing those clipboard
managers, so you just can't rely on them.

An operating should have a proper working clipboard of its own. You just
install the operating system and then install whatever application you
like and it should just work, without the need of installing a clipboard
manager, without the need to keep the source window open and without
developers having to implement a clipboard in their applications. That's
something you open source idiots just don't understand... correction:
don't want to understand.

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334

Title:
  MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the
  paste

Status in AbiWord:
  Confirmed
Status in ChmSee:
  Unknown
Status in Chromium Browser:
  Unknown
Status in Eclipse:
  Unknown
Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface:
  Unknown
Status in Epiphany - Clone of BoulderDash Game:
  New
Status in gnome-utils - GNOME Desktop Utilities:
  New
Status in GnuCash - Finance manager:
  Confirmed
Status in GTK+ GUI Toolkit:
  Confirmed
Status in Inkscape: A Vector Drawing Tool:
  Confirmed
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  Confirmed
Status in Tomboy:
  New
Status in Webkit Direct Port:
  Fix Released
Status in X.Org X server:
  Invalid
Status in Xournal:
  New
Status in XUL + XPCOM application runner:
  Fix Released
Status in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  ===+++ _____________________ ! ALL USERS ! _____________________ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===

  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.

  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any "me too message"; use the "Does
  this bug affect you?" feature you can find a bit above this bug
  description on launchpad.

  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong
  indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a
  tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please
  abstain from doing that.

  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---------------------------
  Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman

  --------------------------------------------

  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and "Copy") text from somewhere
  and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets
  empty.

  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.

  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager

  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to comply with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste

  ********  Actual Status : ********
  ----- Not fixed : ------
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.

  ++++ Fixed : +++++
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
  *************************************

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