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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

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On 2012-04-16T13:39:24+00:00 TenLeftFingers wrote:

Problem description: After copying some text, the application was exited
by the user before opening another application to paste to. The content
was no longer in the clipboard after closing lowriter.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Select and copy some text in LibreOffice Writer.
2. Close Writer as well as any other instances of LO.
3. Open any text editor and try to paste the content.

Expected Outcome: The text should paste and become visible.
Actual Outcome: Nothing happens & the "Paste" option in the menu may show the applications default appearance for no content, if any.

Platform (if different from the browser): 
Ubuntu 12.04
              
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/11.0

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/286

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On 2012-09-29T22:45:38+00:00 thackert wrote:

Hello Jarlath, *,
I can confirm your observation with LO Version 3.6.2.2 (Build ID: da8c1e6) under Debian Testing x86 (but seem to remember to have this same behaviour observed on my PC with Debian Testing AMD64), but I am not sure, if it is a bug from LO and/or from the clipboard. I seem to remember, that it happened to me, when copying from other applications to the clipboard (say from firefox to konsole) in the past as well. So maybe it works "as expected" (by the developers, it means ... ;) ).

Just out of interest: Are you using the default WM/DE GNOME? And have you tested it with another one (like XFCE, KDE or the like)?
HTH
Thomas.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/289

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On 2012-09-30T13:29:28+00:00 TenLeftFingers wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your reply. I can currently reproduce this on the Ubuntu 
12.04 Unity desktop which I believe uses Gnome as it's backend. I 
haven't tried this on any other linux environments. I did try the same 
experiment with (copying from and closing) Firefox and (pasting to) 
Gedit, it worked correctly in this case.

However on MacOS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) this issue is not reproducible. 
The clipboard contents are preserved on exit.

By the way, were you using KDE to reproduce this?

On 09/29/2012 11:45 PM, bugzilla-daemon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> *Comment # 1 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48783#c1> 
> on bug 48783 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48783> from 
> thackert@xxxxxxxx <mailto:thackert@xxxxxxxx> *
> Hello Jarlath, *,
> I can confirm your observation with LO Version 3.6.2.2 (Build ID: da8c1e6)
> under Debian Testing x86 (but seem to remember to have this same behaviour
> observed on my PC with Debian Testing AMD64), but I am not sure, if it is a bug
> from LO and/or from the clipboard. I seem to remember, that it happened to me,
> when copying from other applications to the clipboard (say from firefox to
> konsole) in the past as well. So maybe it works "as expected" (by the
> developers, it means ... ;) ).
>
> Just out of interest: Are you using the default WM/DE GNOME? And have you
> tested it with another one (like XFCE, KDE or the like)?
> HTH
> Thomas.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/290

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On 2012-10-08T08:45:00+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Confirmed by multiple affected users.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardManager

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/291

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On 2012-10-08T09:02:44+00:00 Michael-meeks-1 wrote:

Bjoern - your wiki link fails for me.

The X clipboard system relies on the app owning the selection to provide
the data; if you close the app - that app isn't there; so it will fail.

There are various (varyingly expensive) hacks around this out there in
various desktops; that try to serialise the clipboard at various points
- I guess this could be done before exit.

Problems abound: eg. select 2^36 cells in a sheet, hit copy, exit
LibreOffice - what happens ? ;-> but - that's always the way with big
sheets I guess.

Are you certain this is an unexpected bug ? :-)

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/292

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On 2012-10-08T09:17:58+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

ups, copy paste fumble:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardPersistence

As for unexpectedness:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/983449/comments/8
so yes, I think this is expected -- esp. since more and more other apps are using the workaroud, we start to stick out. From a UX perspective it is likey better to have all apps use one of the workarounds -- or none.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/293

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On 2013-09-24T01:59:00+00:00 Qa-admin-q wrote:

Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least 6
months. Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and
mark the bug as UNCONFIRMED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if
the bug is still in NEEDINFO status with no change in 30 days the QA
team will close the bug as INVALID due to lack of needed information.

For more information about our NEEDINFO policy please read the wiki located here: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/FDO/NEEDINFO

If you have already provided the requested information, please mark the
bug as UNCONFIRMED so that the QA team knows that the bug is ready to be
confirmed.


Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone!


Warm Regards,
QA Team

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/298

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On 2013-09-24T10:52:26+00:00 TenLeftFingers wrote:

I'm not sure why the NEEDINFO status is set, I have answered any
questions asked. Unless you want me to write the patch :)

Please let me know what I can provide. Thanks & regards.

On 24 Sep 2013, at 02:59, bugzilla-daemon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> 
> Comment # 6 on bug 48783 from QA Administrators
> Dear Bug Submitter,
> 
> This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least 6 months.
> Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and mark the bug
> as UNCONFIRMED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in
> NEEDINFO status with no change in 30 days the QA team will close the bug as
> INVALID due to lack of needed information.
> 
> For more information about our NEEDINFO policy please read the wiki located
> here: 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/FDO/NEEDINFO
> 
> If you have already provided the requested information, please mark the bug as
> UNCONFIRMED so that the QA team knows that the bug is ready to be confirmed.
> 
> 
> Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone!
> 
> 
> Warm Regards,
> QA Team
> 
> You are receiving this mail because:
> You reported the bug.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/299

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On 2013-09-26T10:25:30+00:00 Christopher M. Penalver wrote:

Marking back to NEW unless there is a non-robo discussion/discourse to
address.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/300


** Changed in: df-libreoffice
       Status: Unknown => Confirmed

** Changed in: df-libreoffice
   Importance: Unknown => Medium

** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #48783
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48783

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Title:
  MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the
  paste

Status in AbiWord:
  Confirmed
Status in ChmSee:
  Unknown
Status in Chromium Browser:
  Unknown
Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
  Confirmed
Status in Eclipse:
  Unknown
Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface:
  Unknown
Status in Epiphany - Clone of BoulderDash Game:
  Invalid
Status in gnome-utils - GNOME Desktop Utilities:
  New
Status in GnuCash - Finance manager:
  Fix Released
Status in GTK+ GUI Toolkit:
  Confirmed
Status in Inkscape: A Vector Drawing Tool:
  Confirmed
Status in kdelibs:
  New
Status in KDE Utilities:
  New
Status in Mousepad:
  New
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  Confirmed
Status in Qt:
  New
Status in Tomboy:
  New
Status in Webkit Direct Port:
  Fix Released
Status in X.Org X server:
  Invalid
Status in Xournal:
  New
Status in XUL + XPCOM application runner:
  Fix Released
Status in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
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  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---------------------------
  Install diodon, klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
  --------------------------------------------

  *** EXPLANATION OF THE BUG ***
  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and "Copy") text from somewhere and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty.

  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.

  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager

  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to comply with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste
  A related proposal is to implement it in Wayland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/+bug/865885

  ********  Actual Status : ********
  ----- Not fixed : ------
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  LibreOffice : https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48783
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.

  ++++ Fixed : +++++
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
  *************************************

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