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[Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>]

The forum thing was actually an afterthought, and perhaps a poor one.

My original intention was to explore the proper manner of filing bugs against Lubuntu when it's known that the same bugs don't exist in Ubuntu or another variant.

In this case the actual apps effected were probably casper and ubiquity, but I knew the same issues weren't present in Ubuntu.

I know sometimes, if in doubt, filing against a meta-package will draw the needed attention and get a bug properly reassigned.

--- On Sat, 6/4/11, matthew byers <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: matthew byers <faintstlsaint@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
To: "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Chris" <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>, "Phill Whiteside" <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx>, "lubuntu-desktop" <lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 3:15 PM

Per the post on the foums that i just read is all this questioning the need of a official forum for lubuntu?


On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





I may have done a bit of a bad job explaining myself. I'm not too concerned ATM about the bugs I encountered, I'm just testing the waters in order to be as useful to the Lubuntu project as possible. Since time is limited please look at my "test" bug report and also this forum thread (no need to comment at the forums):


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10901610&postcount=10


I did have one other thought however. Do you suppose the Ubuntu Forum mods might grant us permission to start a sub-forum here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46


All thoughts are welcome. My ideas may stink and I don't mind being told so.


--- On Fri, 6/3/11, Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



From: Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

To: "Phill Whiteside" <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Lance" <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx>, "lubuntu-desktop" <lubuntu-desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 8:38 PM 





Hello Lance, 


I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the installer (bug 3)?



Welcome to the crew by the way.


With metta,


Chris Druif


On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 hiyas kansasnoob,

firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have ..... err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2.


The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers

Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO


If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions.


Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. 


Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again.
For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). 

Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great :P


My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers,

Phill.
P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D
@ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct me.








On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance <lbsolost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:








First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and "kansasnoob" at Ubuntu forums.


I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing.

Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here:


http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/

And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The specific bugs are:


1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type startx to get the DE.

2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons.

3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart.


Of course none of these are serious or unexpected this early in a dev cycle, but I wanted to get my feet wet checking out bug filing against Lubuntu anyway, and I'm a bit puzzled.

I'm used to iso-testing pure Ubuntu so all of the above bugs would be filed against 'casper' but I know these bugs were not present when I tested Ubuntu so I thought I should possibly file them against the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' but that's a no-go.


I'm just wondering if the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' should be added to launchpad as a bug filing option?

I'm very impressed with the Lubuntu project and I hope my iso-testing skills may be helpful at some point, but I have no development skills. I'm just a tester.


Apologies in advance if I was wrong posting in this manner.

Sincerely,

Lance

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