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[amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, I do remember but have you seen the long list of dependences that come
with it? :)
I'm afraid with 242MB RAM, I may not get what I really want - just a
thought.


On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM, <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx> wrote:

> As I mentioned it before ksysguard is the only tool that gives numbers
> that are reasonable. The other way would be going into /proc and check it
> manually
>
>
>
> -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer
>
> ------------------------------
> Am 12.11.2011 21:49 schrieb amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Being little sick and having problems with sleeping, I wasn't able to do
> much regarding the test. Above all, I'm having different readings using
> some of the tools which have been mentioned here. I'm not sure what to do?
> each tool is having different readings than the other. I'm mainly using
> LXTask and GNOME System Monitor. Each one is showing different process for
> example LXTask is showing 3 process for Chromium while GNOME System Monitor
> is showing 5. Firefox as always will be shown as one process or two
> sometimes (plugin-container).
>
> I think there must be a better efficient tool to do this benchmark. I
> don't think it should be done manually.
>
> I'll keep looking ...
>
> Thanks!
>
> P.S.
> Just thought to update you about that.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
>> debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
>> I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
>> but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
>> voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
>> mean, they should agree about that.
>>
>> EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep
>> Lubuntu as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow
>> Ubuntu's Steps.
>> Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
>> could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
>> Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
>> many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
>> own information.
>>
>> I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
>> with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
>> default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.
>>
>> I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do
>> some tests and send the report via mailing list?
>>
>> As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission
>> accomplished.
>> IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.
>>
>> I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you:
>>
>> 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
>> 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
>> everyone.
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I
>> could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect
>> is my motto :)
>>
>> Cya
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner@xxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
>>> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>>> "This
>>> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>>> Isn't that the same ?
>>> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
>>> I guess that is a low machine.
>>> If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.
>>>
>>> > Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
>>> such
>>> > personal opinions out of this discussion.
>>>
>>> If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
>>> ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
>>> experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
>>> arguments.
>>> And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
>>> advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Google is dropping H264 support:
>>> >
>>> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
>>>
>>> Google Chrome != Chromium
>>>
>>> > Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
>>> > sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
>>> > available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
>>> > it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
>>>
>>> At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
>>> tab cannot crash the whole browser.
>>>
>>> > While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
>>> > web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
>>> > than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
>>> > source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
>>> > nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
>>> > continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
>>> > different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
>>> > the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
>>> > supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
>>> > maintain Chromium).
>>>
>>> I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of
>>> Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their
>>> existens.
>>> And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free
>>> software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the
>>> free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two free
>>> software products.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>
>
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>
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and Short*