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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Phill,

1. I want to make you aware of the wiki page, that was edited today by
Mörgaes to avoid doing the job twice

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE

So maybe you can have a shorter text and refer to that page for the details.

2. Now, that I know it that an installed Lubuntu 13.04 with a pae kernel
works with my Pentium M, I am testing another option, that might be more
flexible: a USB drive with grub2 and the Lubuntu iso file as a file to
be loop-mounted. It has no fake-pae at all. I don't know how it can
handle kernel upgrades yet.

Best regards
Nio

On 2013-05-02 22:14, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi Nio, Julien et. all.
> 
> we have in the past mentioned community re-spins of lubuntu and when you
> are happy with the README, I am happy to host the iso and see no reason
> not to include a mention of both the use of fake-pae and of a 13.04
> community re-spin so that people do not need to use fake-pae. The thing
> about linix is 'choice', give people the choice and let them decide. Use
> fake-pae if they already have an install of 12.04 that they want to run
> through two dist-upgrades and the non-pae 13.04 for those who are
> installing for the 1st time. I see this as a "win - win" situation.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> On 2 May 2013 04:19, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     [feedback]
> 
>     Hi Julien and Phill,
> 
> 
>     I think Lubuntu 13.04 'Raring' for Pentium M CPUs is a good alternative
>     for a fresh install (instead of downloading 12.04 and upgrading twice to
>     newer releases).
> 
>     I'm receiving feedback from a few people right now, and I have to
>     improve the instructions in the README file, maybe also change the
>     concept of it to make it easier to understand and manage, since it is
>     different from the standard way of distributing software.
> 
>          -o-
> 
>     But for those who have
> 
>     - more or less personalized versions of Lubuntu 12.04 running, or
>     - already have a Lubuntu 12.04 iso file and a slow internet connection
> 
>     the fake-pae method is good for upgrading to new pae releases, so yes,
>     it should be mentioned on the wiki.
> 
>          -o-
> 
>     Background
> 
>     The Pentium M CPUs are a special case. They have pae capability, but do
>     not announce the pae flag. So they fall between the chairs. With the
>     fake-pae trick, introduced by 7bit @ ubuntuforums, it is possible to
>     upgrade. There are many high-quality professional laptops around with
>     Pentium M processors.
> 
>     And, I have a Raring installation on a USB 3 pendrive, that runs
>     beautifully on my old Thinkpad with Pentium M without the pae flag.
>     So the fake-pae flag helps it sit on the pae chair.
> 
>     This is what I am willing to offer to other Pentium M owners.
> 
> 
>     Best regards
>     Nio
> 
> 
>     On 2013-05-01 12:55, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>     > Why not just add a mention on the wiki to use fake-pae for people in
>     > this case ? It seems less complicated that downloading a full version
>     > of Lubuntu just for this.
>     > If you are blocked by the upgrade tool, just advertise the use of
>     > "apt-get dist-upgrade".
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Julien Lavergne
>     >
>     > 2013/4/30 Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>>:
>     >> Hi Nio,
>     >>
>     >> I'm okay with hosting it[1]. But you will need to write up some
>     >> documentation, name it etc.
>     >>
>     >> Regards,
>     >>
>     >> Phill.
>     >> 1. http://phillw.net/isos/
>     >>
>     >> On 30 April 2013 20:41, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> Hello everybody,
>     >>>
>     >>> I think it will be hard to make the devs accept the small fix in the
>     >>> general code of *ubuntu to make it possible to install into a
>     computer
>     >>> with Pentium M CPU. But it works with a system, that is
>     installed in a
>     >>> modern computer, and ported to the Pentium M as a USB drive or
>     cloned or
>     >>> rsynced to an internal hard disk drive.
>     >>>
>     >>> I have such a system ready for distribution, but have a few requests
>     >>> before it can be uploaded and available for everybody.
>     >>>
>     >>> 1. Please read the attached README file and suggest changes (remove,
>     >>> change or add text)!
>     >>>
>     >>> 2. Please suggest where to upload it! The size is 1.1 GB.
>     >>>
>     >>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm $ ls -lh
>     >>> totalt 1,1G
>     >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 3,0K apr 30 14:24 commands-and-output.txt
>     >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle   56 apr 30 16:43 dd-restore.txt
>     >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 1,1G apr 30 20:09 dd-sdb.gz
>     >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle  630 apr 30 14:55 dd-sdb.txt
>     >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle  283 apr 30 20:47 md5sums.txt
>     >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 4,0K apr 30 20:45 README
>     >>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm
>     >>>
>     >>> I can upload it at a private cloud service, but I think it is
>     better if
>     >>> you suggest some other place with better bandwidth.
>     >>>
>     >>> 3. I guess the best thing would be if you can organize a torrent (I
>     >>> don't know how to do that).
>     >>>
>     >>> Best regards
>     >>> Nio
>     >>>
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