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[Iberê Fernandes <ibere.fernandes@xxxxxxxxx>]

question: i have a celeron M 1.2 GHz (yes, i know it's almost 10 years old)
with no pae and physical address size reports 32 bits.

will any of the methods work for me before i start poking around my perfect
working Lubuntu 12.04?

tks!
iberê


2013/5/10 Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>

> Getting ready for easier conversion from Windows XP:
>
> Now there are instructions how to make an install USB drive
> *from Windows with graphical user interface tools* in
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> On 2013-05-06 10:44, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > Hello all Lubuntu lovers,
> >
> > Now there are three methods to make the new Ubuntu family 32-bit pae
> > kernels available for Pentium M, that have pae capability, but do not
> > show the pae flag.
> >
> >
> > 1. Mörgæs's method to start from the Ubuntu 12.04 non-pae mini-iso file
> >
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
> >
> > A variant of this method is that people who have
> > - more or less personalized versions of Lubuntu 12.04 running, or
> > - already have a Lubuntu 12.04 iso file and a slow internet connection
> > use fake-pae to upgrade to 12.10 and/or 13.04.
> >
> >
> > *. Lubuntu-13.04-fake-PAE
> >
> > The idea is to make it easier for people who want to go directly into a
> > new version of Lubuntu. This is a good alternative for a fresh install
> > (instead of downloading 12.04 and upgrading twice to newer releases).
> >
> > Right now the software (images to download and README files) resides on
> > my google drive, but once it is tested by a few more people, Phill
> > Whiteside can host it on his web-site. Only two persons have tested it
> > (one person except myself), and I ask you for help.
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B46yhFQuJvfPRXRvSmJ6b0xoNE0&usp=sharing
> >
> > A. Please test if the installation process works, and that the README
> > texts work, even if you have no laptop with Pentium M. I need feedback
> > from you to improve the instructions, so that the installation will work
> > also for people who are not so experienced with terminal window commands.
> >
> > B. If you have no time to test an installation, please read the README
> > files at the google drive site, and suggest improvments to make it
> > better! Any suggestions are welcome, general ones that make it easier to
> > follow, added text, changed text, improved English grammar (I am
> > Swedish, and there might be some Swenglish phrases, that should be
> > changed). Also tell me which method you prefer 'grub-n-iso' or
> > 'installed system', and why :-)
> >
> >
> > 2. 'grub-n-iso'
> >
> > Advantages:
> > Similar to normal installation (via 1GB or 2GB USB drive)
> > No upgrading between versions is necessary
> > Full flexibility, for example to make a dual boot system
> >
> > Disadvantages:
> > You do not get a complete worḱing operating system directly
> > You need to install fake-pae using 7bit's ppa after the installation
> > It uses the desktop iso file, while the alternate iso file can install
> > to systems with lower RAM.
> >
> > Warning: This Lubuntu Raring 'grub-n-iso’ system is not intended to run
> > with non-pae CPUs, it is only intended for Pentium M, that have pae
> > capability but no pae flag. I take no responsibility for any damage,
> > that this software can cause.
> >
> > Backup all personal data before trying this method.
> >
> > Use it only for computers with old Pentium M CPUs without the pae flag
> > (mainly if not only laptops)!
> >
> > Check very carefully which drive is the USB drive, to use as the
> > ‘grub-n-iso’ or ‘grub-n-iso-n-swap’ USB boot drive. Double check and
> > triple check, because dd will overwrite the drive and if you write to a
> > drive with unique data, there is no way to get them back.
> >
> > The ‘grub-n-iso’ system should work well with 1 GB RAM or more, maybe
> > with 768 MB. The ‘grub-n-iso-n-swap’ system can install will less RAM,
> > because the swap can relieve some peaks in memory usage. It depends on
> > the computer specs (not only RAM, also graphics chip and other devices,
> > that use memory) if it will work, but I guess you can to install with
> > 512 GB RAM. My guess is based on tests in VirtualBox. If you have less
> > RAM, I suggest that you use another method, either the
> > Lubuntu-13.04-fake-PAE install method 'installed system', or the method
> > by Mörgæs starting with Ubuntu non-pae 12.04 mini.iso, fake-pae, and
> > upgrading to
> > 12.10 (and 13.04). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
> >
> >
> > 3. Installed system
> >
> > Advantages:
> > No live install CD/DVD/USB drive is used
> > No upgrading between versions is necessary
> > You get a complete worḱing operating system directly
> >
> > Disadvantages:
> > It is a different way to install a system.
> > It installs into 16 GB (the first 16 GB of a drive)
> > It is easier to use 'grub-n-iso' for a dual boot system
> >
> >
> > This Lubuntu Raring 'installed system' can run with at least the later
> > Pentium M cpus. Right now it is on a USB 3 pendrive, installed from the
> > Lubuntu Raring desktop iso in a modern computer and tested in my IBM
> > Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M 1,7 GHz. It uses the fake-pae method of
> > 7-bit @ubuntuforums to let the 32-bit pae kernel be updated with CPUs
> > without a pae flag.
> >
> > I'm not sure if older Pentium M CPUs can run well with it. Check, that
> >
> > cat /proc/cpuinfo
> >
> > reports 36 bit physical address size!
> >
> > Warning: This Lubuntu Raring 'installed system' is not intended to run
> > with non-pae CPUs, it is only intended for Pentium M, that have pae
> > capability but no pae flag. I take no responsibility for any damage,
> > that this software can cause.
> >
> >
> > *. Background
> >
> > The Pentium M CPUs are a special case. They have pae capability, but do
> > not announce the pae flag. So they fall between the chairs. With the
> > fake-pae trick, introduced by 7bit @ ubuntuforums, it is possible to
> > upgrade. There are many high-quality professional laptops around with
> > Pentium M processors.
> >
> > My Raring installation on a USB 3 pendrive runs beautifully on my old
> > Thinkpad with Pentium M without the pae flag. So the fake-pae flag helps
> > it sit on the pae chair.
> >
> > This is what I am willing to offer to other Pentium M owners.
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio alias sudodus
> >
>
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abs e bons estudos!
iberê