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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

They have tried Lubuntu alternate too, and failed.

I have no idea what is wrong, but things that work for me fail for them.
Maybe the computer hardware. Maybe they do something they are not
telling us, for example trying to install encryption in a dual boot
system. Maybe they cannot tell the difference between 'encrypted disk'
and 'encrypted home'.

I have encountered problems with installing cryptswap with zram active
in my own computers, so it might be worthwhile to mention it in the
release notes or similar.

But I agree, normally it should work to use Lubuntu alternate for this
task, so that should be the first suggestion to solve the problem.

Best regards
Nio

Den 2015-11-09 kl. 14:06, skrev Phill. Whiteside:
> Hmm,
> 
> maybe we investigate telling them to use alternate image as that does
> not use zram in the setup?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> 
> On 9 November 2015 at 09:45, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Phill,
> 
>     Is this something for you? To mention that people should swapoff (to
>     turn off zram) in order to install Lubuntu with encryption (via the
>     desktop iso files).
> 
>     Or maybe it is already mentioned somewhere in the Lubuntu wiki/help
>     pages, in that case where?
> 
>     Best regards
>     Nio
> 
> 
>     -------- Vidarebefordrat meddelande --------
>     Ämne:   Re: a request
>     Datum:  Sun, 8 Nov 2015 23:10:44 -0800
>     Från:   Tom Cloyd <tomcloydmsma@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:tomcloydmsma@xxxxxxxxx>>
>     Till:   Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>
> 
> 
> 
>     Nio,
> 
>     Thanks for your suggestions. I do understand the volunteer thing, as I
>     give my own professional services away for free a great deal - to folks
>     who simply couldn't otherwise afford them.
> 
>     I do appreciate what all of you do, in spite of my voiced frustration.
>     Really!
> 
>     I'll follow up on your suggestions if my current gambit doesn't do the
>     trick.
> 
>     Regarding the swapoff issue, might it make sense for some mention of
>     this to be made on wiki? Just a thought. It's a gotcha that's got me a
>     number of times. :)
> 
>     Tom
> 
>     On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> 
>         Hi again Tom,
> 
>         We are all volunteers. If you want professional service, please use
>         a commercial operating system.
> 
>         That said, I'll try to reply inline (below).
> 
>         Best regards
>         Nio
> 
>         Den 2015-11-09 kl. 06:25, skrev Tom Cloyd:
>         > I wish to register a protest: I'm still trying to get Lubuntu (LB)
>         to do
>         > what it says it CAN do - namely install to a hard drive,
>     setting it up
>         > as an encrypted LVM drive.
>         >
>         > After multiple failures with an 15.04 ISO disk, and then an 15.10
>         > alternate ISO, I'm now trying it with a new 15.10 desktop ISO
>     - the
>         > version I actually want to install.
>         >
>         > At the beginning one has the option of trying out LB or going
>     directly
>         > to an install; I took the latter option. Quite a ways into the
>         install,
>         > after every option is set, and the actual install is about to
>     happen,
>         > there is this unfortunate error message which stops the whole
>         process. I
>         > wrote about this in my initial email about my installation
>     problems:
>         >
>         > /I got an "Unsafe swap space detected" error message. This
>     makes no
>         > sense to me.LB is running in ram. It's installing to a clean
>     HD. WHAT
>         > swap is being talked about?
>         >
>         > I tried again, this time starting LB from the DVD, and then
>     initiating
>         > the install to the USB HD. Same result.
>         >
>         > The error message says that I must "disable the swap space
>     (e.g., by
>         > running swapoff) or configure an encrypted swap space and then run
>         setup
>         > of encrypted volumes again."
>         >
>         > So, I call up lxterminal and execute sudo swapoff -a./
> 
>         The ubiquity installer has an issue with zram. You have to turn
>     it off
>         (which you did) for this option (installing with encryption) to
>     work.
> 
>         > This is clearly a programming issue. If an error message like that
>         is to
>         > be issued, there needs to be immediate access to a command
>     line so it
>         > can be fixed. To have to halt the installation, losing the work it
>         took
>         > to get to this point, then issue the command (which by the way
>     is NOT
>         > "swapoff" but "sudo swapoff -a". as one discovers after more
>     hills and
>         > valleys), then restart...is nuts.
>         >
>         > But that's what I did, again. Which brings me to this, also
>     previously
>         > encountered - and I quote again from my initial email of
>     October 18:
>         >
>         > /"Volume group name already in use. The volume group name used to
>         > automatically partition using LVM is already in use. Lowering the
>         > priority for configuration questions will allow you to specify an
>         > alternative name."
>         >
>         > I have no idea what this means./
> 
>         Maybe there is some information on the target drive, that is
>     confusing
>         the installer.
> 
>         If that is causing your problem, it should work after you wipe
>     the first
>         megabyte of the target drive and create a new partition table.
>     You can
>         do that with the command line tool 'dd' plus the GUI tool
>     'gparted', or
>         safer with 'mkusb version 10.3' via
> 
>         ppa:mkusb/unstable
> 
>         and use the 'wipe menu'.
> 
>         https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb
> 
>         > I really dislike cryptic error message. "Lowering the priority..."
>         Huh?
>         > AND, there's this: Since this is an install which wipes the target
>         disk,
>         > there IS no volume group name at the beginning. So it's not just
>         > cryptic, it's wrong.
>         >
>         > I really like Lubuntu, AND I truly need a fully encrypted
>         installation,
>         > OS and all. The attempt to do it on a USB hard drive is just a
>         proof of
>         > concept, to show it can be done. But it can't, at least by me, so
>         far. I
>         > did it with 15.04 on my netbook but after that it's been all
>     failures.
>         >
>         > I can't afford the time costs here. I hope there's a fix
>         somewhere, but
>         > meanwhile I'm looking for another path - maybe Ubuntu itself (then
>         strip
>         > it down to Lubuntu?) or a Mint version. I need something that
>     works.
>         >
>         > Any and all idea anyone has are most welcome!
>         >
>         > Tom
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>     soul." ~Joseph Addison
> 
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