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[Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I'll repeat the reasoning behind this. If you are new to lubntu, you may
want your hand holding a little. There are two clear methods of having this
happen, IRC and forum. Behind the reasoning is that in future both 'front
ends' point to the wiki pages. For IRC this is done with 'factoids', on the
wiki it is done by a 'header' page. If people on either the forum or on IRC
do not fully understand the wiki, it is updated. When work arounds are no
longer needed as a bug has had a fix, the wiki is updated. During release
cycles, the wiki is updated. This has the simple advantage that our scant
resources can concentrate on one single area to have the most up to date
information. That being the wiki.

This is why I posted up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567 as
an excellent example. All the links post to a 'wiki' area which is updated,
the discussion about the contents takes place on the forum under the
auspicies of the maintainer. In our case, we are not using a private shared
hoster, but our wiki pages. The maintainer of the forum page will be Ali,
but all within lubuntu whether from facebook, IRC, forum, mailing list etc.
etc. will all have one central source of up to date information and can
keep it updated.

Any search on goolge etc., will lead them back to the wiki. So if the link
would, as at present, take them to a piece of 'static' information that is
two years old (and often older), it will not; instead the forum index / old
wiki page will have been edited so that they always get the up to date
stuff in the same way that IRC factoids can be updated.

Regards,

Phill.

On 30 March 2012 20:29, ∅ <maps.backward@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  i've never seen the need. generally i would say forum posts should become
> wiki pages but when someone obsessively creates links and indicies so that
> the forum post is essentially a wiki page itself (*ahem*) there's no need.
>
> in that sense lost is another avenue. it seems like a lot of people use
> the forums so i see it as practically better than the wiki to those folks.
>
> point being is that there should be nothing in the forum that's not in the
> wiki and vice versa.
>
> so i vote leave it alone :D
>
> wxl
>
>
> On 03/30/2012 10:15 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> looks good, remember on forum you can [url=
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/236872593034157/][color xxxxxxx]facebook
> group[/color][/url] Where xxxxx is the color code for your text :)
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Phill.
>
>
>
> On 30 March 2012 17:14, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11408962&postcount=1
>>
>> If you check the links over here, you will see my point as a live example
>> :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Phill Whiteside <PhillW@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ali,
>>>
>>>  LOST if set as you describe (i.e. front page presence on the forum)
>>> with the links for information pointing to Wiki is exactly what the forum
>>> people are looking for. :) As such it does not need anything doing to it.
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>>
>>>  Phill.
>>>
>>>  On 30 March 2012 16:24, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Long story short, I just did a check on ALL my threads on Ubuntu Forum.
>>>> I do have TWO only on Tutorials & Tips<http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100>area and
>>>> ONE thread on General Help<http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331>area which is unfortunately not finished yet (never got the time to finish
>>>> it as I planned to add more stuff).
>>>>
>>>> There you go:
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650699
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872303
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880394
>>>>
>>>> Now, after the last discussion, everyone is asking me to convert
>>>> Lubuntu One Stop Thread to a Wiki Page.
>>>> Yet again, Lubuntu One Stop Thread works as an index to many links for
>>>> many websites. The above 3 threads (which two of them only are actually on
>>>> the T&T area) are just 3 links over there.
>>>>
>>>> Also, Lubuntu One Stop Thread is already pointing to the Wiki Pages.
>>>> That will be few links too.
>>>> It also points to other threads on Ubuntu Forum and LXDE Forum.
>>>>
>>>> Over all, the most useful part of LOST is the first few posts on the
>>>> first page which will work as an index to everything else.
>>>>
>>>> Now, the most important Q: Have you guys looked into LOST after all?
>>>> Please check the first posts on the first page and see where each link is
>>>> pointing at or directing to and then, we can have another word/chat over
>>>> here :)
>>>>
>>>> Before asking me to convert LOST to a Wiki Page, please check the
>>>> thread and see if it fits to be there or not?
>>>>
>>>> If you guys (well, we are total 4 only!!) will vote to convert it, then
>>>> you need to know (obviously) LOST will be a Wiki Page that will be an Index
>>>> to everything else, hence if we want to direct someone to our Wiki, it
>>>> should be done through The Converted LOST. To make that simpler, if LOST
>>>> meant to be as helpful as it is right now, it must be the FIRST Page or the
>>>> COVER page (or whatever you call it) on our Wiki.
>>>>
>>>> To make that even more simpler, LOST should be here:
>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu or here:
>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation OTHERWISE, it
>>>> is totally pointless to me to convert it. Why? yet again, because LOST is
>>>> an index and this index must be the front page in order to serve the one
>>>> and only reason of its existence.
>>>>
>>>> PLEASE, don't get me wrong, I just don't want anyone to do something
>>>> then we find out it was a waste of time and totally pointless. I want to
>>>> make sure everyone is aware of this and everyone understands what is going
>>>> on :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I'll be waiting for your feedback/reply. After all, I will not start
>>>> today, I will start either on Sun or Mon if not after that. I need to
>>>> travel tomorrow and have other stuff to do before starting the work that in
>>>> case there will be any.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for your time!
>>>>
>>>> P.S.
>>>> I have CC'ed Julien because I also need his opinion about that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Best Regards,
>>>> amjjawad*
>>>> Lubuntu Support Team Co-ordinator
>>>> Lubuntu Communication Team Administrator
>>>> Lubuntu One Stop Thread<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755>
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>>>> Ubuntu Forum Profile <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822>
>>>>
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