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[Matthias Urlichs <matthias@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

meba:
> I consider this critical and I believe this should focus on reenabling
> hidd as the new stack seems to be buggy for advanced users. Really - can
> it cause a lot of pain to beginners if they have hidd?

The real problem with hidd is that the "hidd --connect" workaround is
"good enough", so that the real underlying bug is never fixed.

> P.S.: No, please don't suggest fixing the bug in the wizard, this report
> is intentionally provided as a request to REINTRODUCE HIDD.
> 
Exactly.

Unfortunately, it seems that it's (again!) too late to fix this properly,
so we seem to be stuck with the damn hidd workaround for another half
year. :-(


On the other hand (and the main reason why I, nevertheless, consider
this bug to be a real problem): there are certainly use cases for having
a scriptable replacement for HIDD, particularly (but not limited to)
"--connect".

If there's no documented way to replace hidd in those cases, that's a
regression which NEEDS to be fixed!

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[Intrepid] New Bluetooth Wizard fails to pair with devices: reintroduce hidd
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/281580
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Status in Mactel Support: Invalid
Status in “bluez” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed

Bug description:
Binary package hint: bluez

With the latest updates to Intrepid testing, the new bluetooth device setup wizard (which is an excellent improvement over the previous setup methods) fails to pair with my Apple Keyboard (pre-aluminum, broadcom based). No debug information or error messages are given other than "failed to pair".

Further making this an issue is the fact that the recent bluetooth updates also removed the hidd binary from Ubuntu (again).

This method seems to be the only thing that works for Apple Bluetooth Keyboards recently:
http://idebian.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/manage-hid-bluetooth-devices-in-linux/

Notice that it requires hci to be reset, but cannot use hid2hci to do this. The keyboard was working fine previous to the update using the method in the above link.

Removing reliable and useful software from the repos that can be useful for workarounds when new software is introduced is not a good idea. The hidd binary has been removed several times from Ubuntu and each time it has been requested that it is put back. Please make this binary available in the repos via other means so that it can be used as a fallback in the future.