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[Jeremy Cole <jeremycole@xxxxxxxxxx>]

To be clear, I meant "As both a SkySQL VP and a _MariaDB Foundation_ board
member" -- I have no idea if you're also on the board of SkySQL but it
wouldn't be relevant here (and don't want others reading this to
misconstrue).

Regards,

Jeremy


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Jeremy Cole <jeremycole@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Rasmus,
>
> As both a SkySQL VP and a board member, could you answer one question:
>
> What was the involvement (c.f. no involvement, passive notice, active
> agreement, approval, rejection, etc.) of the MariaDB Foundation and its
> board in the current/new uses of the MariaDB trademark: the MariaDB.com
> site and design itself, the phrase "MariaDB Enterprise", etc.?
>
> Additionally, should not MariaDB.com say in its footer "2013 © SkySQL" not
> "2013 © MariaDB" since, by my understanding "MariaDB" is not itself some
> commercial entity? Otherwise you're essentially acting as "SkySQL d/b/a
> MariaDB" which is unnecessarily confusing and ambiguous as to the
> position/relationship of the MariaDB Foundation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Rasmus Johansson <rasmus@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeremy,
>>
>> You’re absolutely right that the trademark was owned by Monty Program
>> Ab. Now after SkySQL acquired Monty Program, the trademark ownership
>> has transferred to SkySQL Corporation Ab. Notice that this isn’t
>> updated in trademark registers yet. The acquisition was closed on
>> Monday this week and it was a prerequisite for taking matters such as
>> trademarks further.
>>
>> The MariaDB Foundation and SkySQL are currently working on the
>> trademark issue to come up with a solution on what rights to the
>> trademark each entity should have. Expect to hear more about this in a
>> fairly near future.
>>
>> MariaDB has from its beginning been a very community friendly project
>> and much of the success of MariaDB relies in that fact. SkySQL of
>> course respects that.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Rasmus
>>
>> VP Engineering, SkySQL
>> Board member, MariaDB Foundation
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Jeremy Cole <jeremycole@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > While poking around on the various sites (discussed at length in
>> previous
>> > threads) I was left wondering about the MariaDB trademark. I was under
>> the
>> > impression this was going to be owned by and managed by the MariaDB
>> > Foundation. It seems like it was registered by Monty Program Ab though,
>> and
>> > never transferred to or owned by MariaDB Foundation. So, after the
>> > acquisition it is now owned by SkySQL.
>> >
>> > The SkySQL site's "Trademarks" page definitively confirms this with the
>> text
>> > «The "MariaDB" trademark is wholly owned by SkySQL Corporation Ab and
>> is a
>> > registered trademark in ...».
>> >
>> > So, I am left wondering what happened? Was my original understanding
>> > incorrect, or was this never properly followed through? While I would
>> hope
>> > SkySQL is a good community member and would not do anything bad with the
>> > trademark, this does defeat a lot of the original idea with the
>> foundation,
>> > by my understanding, and leaves a single commercial entity in more or
>> less
>> > full control of MariaDB's future.
>> >
>> > Can anyone provide some insight?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Jeremy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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