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[Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Am 06.08.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Jean Weisbuch:
> I will try not to feed the troll.

do you really think it's trolling to have zero understanding for useless 
questions?

> Here is the commit that added this message :
> https://github.com/MariaDB/server/commit/ddd275bde7a8edb64449761989d4d472739b3d2a#diff-e7d51f293adc9257284fbdec858056df

"we log a server version information just after we prepare 
server_version string and logging is initialized"

but it is *not* logged, it goes to stdout and hence on systems which 
does not forward stdout to syslog they are not visible at all and in 
case of troubles you typically look in the mysqld log

that message is at the wrong place - period

> Le 06/08/2015 13:11, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> > Am 06.08.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Guillaume Lefranc:
> > > a) We don't test or support our software on self-built distributions
> >
> > how does that matter at all?
> > the codeline below is distribution and build agnostic
> > that log message is echo'ed to stdout
> >
> > [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld (mysqld 10.0.20-MariaDB) starting as
> > process 115096
> >
> > * mysqld.cc
> > * line 4075
> >
> >
> >   if (!opt_help)
> >     sql_print_information("%s (mysqld %s) starting as process %lu ...",
> >                           my_progname, server_version, (ulong) getpid());
> >
> > > b) I am not gifted with prescience to respond to such questions as "same
> > > as before"
> >
> > because all the questions are not relevant
> >
> > > c) You didn't even reply to my questions or give a relevant answer to
> > > any of these
> >
> > because they where all not useful
> >
> > > d) No one on this mailing list will help you if you adopt such a smug
> > > tone
> >
> > well, you sounded like a random user asking useless questions
> > well, one more message to drop in rsyslog.conf
> >
> > i really ask myself why report anything at all and waste my time
> > instead just burry all log flooding and be done
> >
> > > e) Suit yourself and have a nice day
> >
> > you too
> >
> > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > <mailto:h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     Am 06.08.2015 um 12:53 schrieb Guillaume Lefranc:
> > >
> > >         You don't give any meaningful context at all to solve this
> > > issue.
> > >
> > >
> > >     really?
> > >
> > >     what is so hard to understand in "why is only this one message not
> > >     written to the mysqld log but goes ot stdout with recent releases?"
> > >
> > >     if you know what stdout means that's pretty clear
> > >     if you don't know you are hardly a developer who could change it
> > >
> > >         What's the distribution you using?
> > >
> > >
> > >     self built as all the years befor
> > >
> > >         What commands do you use to start
> > >
> > >
> > >     the same as always
> > >
> > >     /usr/libexec/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/my.cnf
> > >     --pid-file=/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
> > >
> > >         mariadb?
> > >
> > >
> > >     surely, did you see the mysqld 10.0.20-MariaDB?
> > >
> > >         Where do you see this message?
> > >
> > >
> > >     in /var/log/messages as said *because* it's thrown to stdout which
> > >     is catched by systemd-journald while anything else goes to
> > >     "log-error" from my.cnf
> > >
> > >         2015-08-06 12:27 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >         <mailto:h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >         <mailto:h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > <mailto:h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
> > >
> > >              Aug  6 12:24:24 testserver mysqld: 150806 12:24:24 [Note]
> > >              /usr/libexec/mysqld (mysqld 10.0.20-MariaDB) starting as
> > >         process
> > >              115096 ...
> > >
> > >              why is this now stdout instead mysql logs?
> > >
> > >              on systemd based distributions that spits now to the global
> > >         syslog
> > >              and finally on machines restarting 2 instances every hour
> > >         for backup
> > >              reasons it annoys
> > >
> > >              until 10.0.19 or 10.0.20 that was not this way

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