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[Jeff Dyke <jeff.dyke@xxxxxxxxx>]

I appreciate your points, but i don't give them out to 'every random
monkey', that would completely against the setup I've chosen.  Showing
someone how to ssh-tunnel via putty is not hard, and is only once and can
be documented.  The people that i give ssh access to are managed centrally
via a config mgmt system and they only have access to the bastion host, and
are not users on any other host.  Also they can only connect to mysql from
that host(which really doesn't matter since they can't get to another
host).  And my point really mainly is for cloud infrastructures; if you're
on a corporate network, hopefully the sysadmin has installed a VPN which
can be used and then you can VPN to the network and connect like you're
local, which you could also do in the cloud.

So IMHO it is much more secure, perhaps the way it's set up here and again
it's just my 2 cents.  SSH Tunnels to a bastion host that is not allowed to
talk to another host will always be more secure than any phpMyAdmin
configuration.

Again, i appreciate your point of view, but wanted to qualify some of my
answers.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>
>
> Am 17.04.19 um 18:55 schrieb Jeff Dyke:
> > Reindl's (funny) comments aside.  Why still use phpMyAdmin in this day
> > and age.  Nearly every maria/percona/mysql client supports ssh
> > tunneling.  SequelPro on Mac, Heidi (or others) on Windows, and any
> > windows client running through wine if your desktop/laptop is linux.
> > Also developers can just use intellij or similar IDE's that have a
> > database pane.
> >
> > Trusting administration to an exposed phpMyAdmin in this day and age
> > frightens me greatly.  Also if you had an HIDS server running to track
> > bad phpMyAdmin logins i bet there would be a ton of alerts.  I've
> > blocked all such attempts in my IPS even though i don't have phpMyAdmin.
> >
> > I realize this does not answer your question, but if this fits into your
> > architecture i'd say good by to that web interface.
>
> because it's nonsense to believe that you can manage to handle everybody
> which probably needs to access mysql with his restricted account to
> learn how to use ssh-tunnles
>
> and that you are plain wrong when you believe hand out ssh tunnels into
> your network for every random monkey increases security
>
> not talking about that he is obviously a 3rd party to a customer where
> you have no say in that context
>
> the problem is *exposing* phpMyAdmin for the whole world and asking
> stupid questions like which version before the latest one instead just
> update it and when you are too dumb building packages for the target OS
> hire some one which is capable to do so or unpack that dmaned folder ph
> hand
>
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:54 AM Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     Am 17.04.19 um 16:50 schrieb Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming:
> >     > Subject/Topic: How do I determine if versions of phpMyAdmin before
> >     4.8.5 is SQL Injectable using sqlmap?
> >
> >     frankly are you drunken?
> >
> >     you posted this exactly same message to
> >
> >     * phpmyadmin list TWICE
> >     * oracle mysql list
> >     * now mariadb list
> >
> >     i seriously looked if my mailserver has a problem - stop it damned!
>
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