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There was actually only one part of this that seems like it is on the money and that was code of conduct means moderation isn't required. But that's just the surface impression. It is a simple observation that comes from not understanding what the code of conduct means and it assumes that moderation must be done centrally.

A code of conduct requires each and every member of the group (be it companies, doctors, football teams or mailing lists) to perform moderation themselves for themselves. A code of conduct is in effect distributed moderation. Responsibilities are thus not circumvented, they are distributed. In the case of this mailing list, it means every member of the mailing list is responsible for moderating the content that they supply in accordance with the guidelines from the blog post.

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From: Maria-discuss <maria-discuss-bounces+db1280=hotmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ruben Safir <ruben@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 23 December 2022 3:01 AM
To: Andrew Hutchings <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: maria-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <maria-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Maria-discuss] Code of Conduct

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 02:42:05PM +0000, Andrew Hutchings wrote:
> Hi Kristian,
>
> On 22/12/2022 12:27, Kristian Nielsen wrote:
> >Andrew Hutchings <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >
> >>Instead the intention is to discourage people from personal attacks at
> >>each other, which negatively affects the group as a whole.
> >
> >It doesn't affect anyone at all expect those that choose to read them and
> >have nothing better to spend their time on than react to them and feed the
> >trolls.
>
> Unfortunately not true, such activity is seen by newer member of the
> community and these people go elsewhere (yes, this has happened,
> more than once).
>


You know and the entire public knows that the trolling and
communications failures of the electronic media follows all
platforms equally and neither codes of conducts or how such
communications are transmited has any effect nor do they prevent
the controversies that come with the need for proper moderation.


The only thing Codes of Conducts do is circumvent responsibilities
for moderation and arbitration of conflict with fake standards
with equally fake claims of aliantations.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3iic7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QereR0CViMY


Fuck the Nazi's and the Code of Conduct.


> >The way to improve the mailing lists is to move the traffic from mariadb.com
> >/ mariadb.org internal mailing lists/private mail onto the public lists. Not
> >to put up systems to reduce the trafic even further (however low the value
> >of such traffic may currently be).
>
> All the MariaDB mailing lists are public already. Mailing list
> message activity isn't too high, many people have moved on to other
> methods of communication (Zulip, MariaDB Community Slack, Reddit,
> etc...). But I don't see the mailing list going away any time soon
> either.
>
> Kind Regards
> --
> Andrew (LinuxJedi) Hutchings
> Chief Contributions Officer
> MariaDB Foundation
>
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