Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

[Steve Dodier <sidnioulz@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello people,

My email may be asynchronous but i barely could follow this thread, yet i wanted to say a few words on it since i fell on an interesting bug today on launchpad.

My understanding of indicator-applet is that it is designed for apps-to-user communication and apparently only used by "social" apps (email, IM, and maybe soon some websites with Yim ?). Thus, i believe update-manager should not use it at all, for the sake of consistency.

Updater-notifier uses an icon (orange/red) to notify the user of the presence of updates. That's personally how i notice available updates, and, after a few weeks of usage, i noticed it became natural to watch after it for my family members (even if they still do their updates on a weekly basis).

Notifications are, in my understanding, devoted to system-to-user communication (power management, critical bugs on the desktop, etc) and to synchronous app-to-user communication (currently played song, for instance). I think update-notifier should shamelessly use it, and even with critical notifications for notifying the availability of security updates. One notification for saying updates available (one max / session), and another to say it's finished, that seems ok to me.

Now, we have two coherent ways of notifying the user about these important notifications. It's enough and we shouldn't disturb them more than that, which brings me to this LP bug :https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/200127

I added it to one hundred paper cuts because it's an old, easy-to-fix, and critical usability bug. Currently, update-manager windows keep popping-up when you're working on disturbing you, while they should pop-up unfocused (or not popup at all, and the information be integrated in the original u-m window, aswell as the tray icon's bubble kept consistant) and let you breathe and keep working (or not working :p) on your desktop.

That was my 2 cents.

Have a nice day,

SD.