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[Ayatana] [Re: Ubuntu User Experience Guidelines]



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Thanks for the info. However, as unobtrusive is defined, it seems that
what happened to you is the other way around. Your value for IM
notification makes the nonappearance of the notify-osd obtrusive instead
of the other way around. 

As I suggested, the UX guidelines have to include customizeability
because as you said, one size doesn't fit all.

Perhaps, we can file a bug regarding this issue if there isn't one
yet :)

On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 20:10 +0530, mac_v wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 21:22 +0800, Allan Caeg wrote:
> > Thanks for the feedback. That reminded me of the new feature of
> > notify-osd that hides it under a window that is set fullscreen. That's
> > just a side effect of the bug fix for flickering windows but it's also a
> > good example of being unobtrusive because it avoids disturbing the user
> > who is focusing on the "fullscreened" window :)
> > 
> 
> Unobtrusive doesnt have to mean that it is helpful!
> 
> The other day , i was watching a movie and the sound of an IM ping got
> drowned in the movie's noise , and didnt notice the IM until the movie
> was over! And by then the person who had sent the IM was offline.
> 
> For me, if a person sends me an IM , IM *is* more important than the
> movie and i do want to be notified immediately.
> 
> If the issue is about presentations.. suppressing the bubbles during an
> OOo might be better... now it suppressed the bubbles even when using
> picture slideshows!
> 
> For now , a workaround i do while watching movies , is to *not* use
> fullscreen. But rather use a Maximized window!
> This is *very* frustrating , not being able to even watch a movie
> peacefully!
> 
> For my user scenario... unobtrusive = frustrating = unproductive !
> 
> Though i agree that a personal message during a presentation would be
> embarrassing...
> What would be the chances of that happening compared to a person missing
> an IM notification while watching a movie!
> [most folks dont turn on the im clients during presentations , this
> embarrassment problem would be more when a person is using a laptop and
> has im client running
> While this 'fix' this would affect both desktop and laptop users and
> most definitely a larger user base ]
> 
> It has already been pointed out on the mailing list, several times here
> that now all fullscreen means that user doesnt want to be disturbed!
> 
> There have been other who said that they use firefox in fullscreen
> mode... so how does fit with being unobtrusive!
> 
> One size doesnt fit all!
> 
> 

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