Re: [Ayatana] Window button order

I'm sorry to interrupt such a nice discussion, but what impact this "usability" testing would have?

No sensible user (at least not the one from general public) would ever read the results of such a test. All that people would care about in buttons placement is whether it is convenient or not. If this will end up easy and convenient, they will use it. If it will not be easy and convenient, they will use something else, maybe not even Ubuntu.

More technically inclined may investigate the issue or change their theme. But majority will just either like it, or not

Maybe what's required here, is some sort of data collecting on what theme people actually use. If majority will use Ambiance (or derivatives), then here you have it - it's usable.

Alex.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I have to agree. And in this particular issue, the problem is not
even the lack of discussions but the lack of information at all.

Le mardi 23 mars 2010 à 10:35 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva a écrit :
> Maybe I am just a strongly trained scientist (which I am). But i
> really don't believe that they should start trying to get hard facts
> instead of "not being convinced". Anyhow I have to admit that I am
> very frustrated about the list. It really seems that the list is not
> there for real discussions. The fact that the designers don't really
> answer simple questions seems to indicate that.
>
> Shrug...
>
> Paulo
>
> Obs: sorry for the rant coming out of frustration with this and other
> issues in this list.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Paulo, I personally agree with you but, from Mark's response on the
> > bug report, it seems that the design team's view on this is one of
> > skepticism: they seem to be not convinced that, just because
> > accidental clicks are technically easier to happen now, they will
> > actually happen more frequently in practice.
> >
> >
> > Le mardi 23 mars 2010 à 09:53 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva a écrit :

> >> In particular I would like to see addressed the concern that a user my
> >> hit one of the buttons while aiming at a menu and hence may get an
> >> unexpected behavior. The most destructive situation would be to hit
> >> the close button when aiming at the (popular) edit menu.
> >>
> >> Note that the other OS that has buttons on the left, OS X, does not
> >> have its menus on the windows, they live in the top bar. Hence this in
> >> not a problem in that case.
> >>
> >> best,
> >>
> >> Paulo
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Victor <vm.kalbskopf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Hello All
> >> >
> >> > I noticed in 10.4 beta1 that no concessions were made, not even giving the
> >> > option to move the window controls back to the right hand side.
> >> >
> >> > I hope this email does not come across as demanding or impatient. If it
> >> > does, please forgive my lack in writing skills.
> >> >
> >> > Will some one in the design team please give some reasons as to why it is
> >> > better to have the controls on the left as apposed to the right.
> >> >
> >> > I have heard various reasons as to why it may not be so bad having them on
> >> > the left but none as to why it is better.
> >> >
> >> > And change for the sake of change is not better.
> >> >
> >> > Some usability test results would be nice.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Victor Kalbskopf
> >> >
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