Re: [Ayatana] Presence Settings vs Notification

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:16, Frederik Nnaji <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello List

Yet another harrassment from my side ;)

i'm still on my little Samsung NC-10 Netbook, the small resolution is killing me sometimes, so i need to get the best of window management out of this little toy..

Let's talk about presence settings, i.e. the stuff you can click in the IM part of the Me Menu.

Let me start, by introducing my personal Use Case, which is not at all limited to my netbook:

Composing an eMail, i decide that the text input area is too small, so i set my UMA to fullscreen.
After editing the mail for about 2 minutes, i want to be sure i didn't miss any important IMs; i don't want to disappoint anybody with late answers, since my presence is currently set to "Available". In order to see if anybody IMed me, i make sure, my keyboard has enough light, so i can find the F11 key.. I never learnt finding Function Keys back when i practised blind typing with our old typewriter about 20 years ago.

Now ready, i can search for, aim and hit F11 on my keyboard, to exit fullscreen conveniently.
As i notice, there is no new IM waiting, so i won't disappoint anybody by finishing my eMail first.

What i am proposing, in order to remedy this ridiculous situation, is to tell notify-osd to show me bubbles above my fullscreen apps, when presence is set to "available".

helpful to add, that sound notification is already active in fullscreen, while bubbles are obviously being suppressed behind the foreground window?

Here [1] one little gemstone bug over at launchpad i found, of course this sheds some considerable light on the issue.

i found a couple of blogs and even an Ubuntu Brainstorm idea [2] on this matter..

Obviously, the problem associated with this issue is related to the 2 release cycles old ToDo list item that was supposed to make NotifyOSD talk to FUSA (Fast User Switching Applet), which is now replaced in this matter by the MeMenu (IM Presence Settings).

In search of at least a design spec for the Do Not Disturb mode i found only a stub on the NotifyOSD wiki [3], which did not address this specific problem comprehensively at all.

Instead, the behaviour of "applications" is being spoken about, which suppress notifications and should at least tell the user that they will do so..

Or does anyone think that we don't need a DnD mode for NotifyOSD?

@ Mirco (if you're not too busy to read/reply): with the introduction of a DnD mode, would it eventually make sense to stop suppressing ASYNC notifications in fullscreen apps while in "Available" and "Away" mode?

Actually, i don't even know how the AFK mode was already discussed here on the ML last year.

Vish made references to old threads, perhaps someone has links to the archive? i would love to read up on this..