Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

[Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx>]

> Well, any closed but not replaceable application that can't or won't
> adapt, as well as any open application that has yet to be fixed. The
> latter should hopefully disappear over time (but how much time?), the
> former also goes into the "never will "category for the purpose of
> this discussion at least. Some software in use may not even have
> developers or even code any more.

> I think the way forward is to fix all apps that are possible, via bug
> reports and patches, and replace the rest with good alternatives over
> time.

> I don't think the way forward is to sabotage a user experience because
> they need (or even want to) use applications which can not yet be
> replaced, or at least yet have to receive a patch.
> 
> I think that easy ways to conform and pointing out the benefit of
> belonging should be enough "pressure" to adapt without actively
> breaking applications, and probably just about as fast.


"Breaking" is too strong of a word. Putting Wine/Java icons in a
separate window or indicator menu would make them suboptimal,
sure, but still fully functional.

So the question is: can Wine/Java apps be considered cornercase-y
enough for this sub-optimality to be accepted?