Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

[Shane Fagan <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey mpt,

Could you give me a task and priority list? I have some time until alpha
2 ish to do some development after that im going to be doing some
quickly work.

--fagan 


On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:42 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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> Shane Fagan wrote on 26/05/10 14:30:
> >...
> > I have a bone to pick with the update system in Ubuntu. It hasnt
> > changed since I started using Ubuntu (Gutsy).
> 
> I have now completed about half of a specification for software updates
> in Ubuntu. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling> (The main
> things still missing are how to show installation progress, how to
> handle error cases, and how automatic installation should interact with
> interactive installation and the various session commands.)
> 
> > For one I dont think we should get asked our password to check for
> > updates. (Thats a big one for me).
> 
> When Ubuntu checks for updates automatically, you don't need to enter
> your password. When you ask Update Manager to check again, you do need
> to enter your password. I've proposed to Michael Vogt that your manual
> check could use the same mechanism as the automatic check, so that you
> wouldn't need to enter your password.
> 
> >                                    I dont even think by default the
> > user should have to check at all. I think it should be checked once
> > every week instead unless the user doesnt want that.
> 
> The default is to check daily, show security updates (together with any
> others) immediately, and otherwise show non-security updates weekly.
> 
> > The second thing is can we put the updates in the software center
> > instead? I know its complex to implement but having a separate program
> > with only 3 buttons is a waste.
> 
> I have considered this, several times. But Ubuntu Software Center is
> (and, even more so, will be) a complex interface for what we're trying
> to make a very simple question. (In
> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling#alert> you'll see that
> I've simplified it from "a program with only 3 buttons" down to just an
> alert box by default.) And, "oh, there are updates available, this would
> be a good time to also install that program I've been meaning to try" is
> not a realistic use case to design for.
> 
> What we can do, though, is the reverse: When you install a program in
> Ubuntu Software Center, check if there are updates, and offer to install
> those at the same time. That would reduce, to a small extent, the number
> of times people get interrupted by the updates alert.
> 
> > Can do any of this for Maverick?
> >...
> 
> Michael and I would be delighted if anyone could help out in
> implementing the specification. There are many small bits that can be
> implemented independently. <https://code.launchpad.net/update-manager>
> 
> - -- 
> Matthew Paul Thomas
> http://mpt.net.nz/
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