Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

[Frederik Nnaji <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 13:17, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Frederik Nnaji wrote on 08/09/10 02:12:

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> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:41, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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>> Frederik Nnaji wrote on 05/09/10 12:22:
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>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeMenu#Instant%20messaging%20statuses doesn't
>>> specify MeMenu behaviour for that case, if you check "Use Cases".
>>>...
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>> It does specify the behavior, and it has since March. "Each item
>> should be sensitive only if at least one of the accounts you have set
>> up in Empathy supports that status, regardless of whether Empathy is
>> currently running."
>
> yes, i simply skipped this constraint, since it doesn't specify how the
> controls would get me out of "offline". That sort of behaviour is not
> being addressed, intentionally not, as i am beginning to understand..

The two test cases should have made it clear: both of them fail if
the status items are disabled when you're offline. Anyway, I've
clarified the prose now.
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeMenu?action="">>

Thanks a lot, MPT, it is clearer now ;)
Now remains the question, why in the implementation the Presence part of the MeMenu is "disabled" when all Empathy-configured accounts are "offline"..
I was hoping Mission Control 5 in Telepathy would make it possible to change back to "online", "away" or "busy", even when Empathy says my accounts are "offline".
Another thing is, that i'm being logged out, not sent offline. My computer is still online, it's just that IM accounts are being logged out.
This is why i don't understand the use case of "offline", if all it does is actually "log out".

If offline was to be a state of Presence, it would be better if i could alternate between "offline" and the other states of Presence via the MeMenu directly.