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Re: [Ayatana] "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
- To: fain182 <fain182@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Ayatana] "fileless" paradigm (was: File menu)
- From: Martin Owens <doctormo@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:48:28 -0500
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On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 23:25 +0100, fain182 wrote:
> 2010/11/11 frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > here imo, especially considering the "fileless" paradigm we are
> trying to
> > introduce into userland.
> What is it? can i find it in a document?
> ( BTW defining something by negation, puzzles me
I would be careful with how you introduce a file-less paradigm. In order
to do so you'll need a cast-iron items and collections system with all
sorts of concept access systems like tagging, event access and cross
linking with user items.
In Ubuntu we have no developers working on these systems, and I didn't
see enough UDS time devoted to solving any of those problems either.
Even android and iphone's systems which are a thousand times stronger
than Ubuntu's are too weak to support real file-less paradigms.
I remain very unconvinced that we are in any shape to offer this feature
and I fear that people are looking at a dream before they can see the
path that leads us there.
Until we spend time adding in all the required features, removal of file
access will equate with removal of functionality which will cripple
workflows and destroy rich data access for many use cases.
2 cents.
Martin,