Re: [Ayatana] Menu bar integrated in title bar in Unity

[Andrew Laignel <a.laignel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

*Cough* 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Firefox-4-Mockup-i06-%28Win7%29-%28Aero%29-%2
8TabsTop%29.png *cough*

:)

On 18/02/2011 12:45, "Luke Benstead" <kazade@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On 18 February 2011 12:25, Luke Benstead <kazade@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 18 February 2011 11:10, David Stevenson <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 18/02/11 04:38, Greg K Nicholson wrote:
>>>>> Why not integrate (and hide) the menu bar in the title bar instead
>>>>>for
>>>>> ummaximized windows?
>>>>
>>>> This makes sense logically.
>>>
>>> I also like this idea. My top panel has always been full, the first
>>> thing I do on any install is to delete the bottom bar and put all the
>>> information I want in the top bar. So now I need to hide information I
>>> have been used to having visible to make room for menus while leaving a
>>> title bar empty.
>>>
>>>> The massive downside to all of this is Fitts's law: the effective
>>>> target area of a menu bar is vastly reduced when it isn't at the
>>>> screen's edge. For that reason alone, and despite its logical and
>>>> aesthetic elegance, I think we have to reject this idea.
>>>
>>> Have users really been having problems clicking on menus? I know we are
>>> all different but I would not have thought this affected many users.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I don't think it's that much of a problem. Fitt's law keeps
>> being quoted as an excuse to do stuff over and above other factors.
>> I'm still unhappy that the global menu has been implemented despite
>> not-working well with dual-monitors, focus follows mouse, or really
>> large resolutions, but whenever this gets mentioned "Fitt's law" seems
>> to be the overriding excuse. We need to stop putting so much emphasis
>> on Fitt's law, it's only one element of good usability.
>>
>> My suggestion is that we shouldn't be hiding menus behind titles, it
>> would be far more sensible (IMO) to consistently display the
>> application name in the title bar of each window as a menu, whose
>> submenu consists of the current menu bar (e.g. display "Firefox" next
>> to the window controls, clicking "Firefox" would display a drop down
>> menu containing "File", "Edit" etc.). If a window is maximized then
>> the panel becomes the title bar.
>>
>> Luke.
>>
>
>Quick mockup of what I mean: http://i.imgur.com/a763I.png clicking the
>orange Firefox button would bring down a drop down menu.
>
>Luke.
>
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