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Re: [Ayatana] New natty scrollbar issues




----- "Martín Soto" <donsoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Mitja Pagon <mitja.pagon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I see this scrollbars as another solution in search of a problem to solve and in the process introducing more problems than it solves.  When will people realize that this is not the right approach to do things.
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> The main advantage of the new scrollbars is that their real estate consumption is essentially 0. This may feel as a minor change when you're sitting in front of a 25" screen, but on my tiny notebook where every pixel counts, the improvement is significant. So yes, there are still some issues, but calling the scrollbars "another solution in search of a problem" appears quite unfair to me.
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> M. S.
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Sorry, but every pixel counts is not a definition of a problem. Before coming up with a solution, first you have to define what the problem you are trying to solve is. This is the supposed problem as defined by Christian Giordano, the man behind this scroll bar implementation:

"Today’s scrollbars are optimized for cursor driven UI but they became easily unnecessary and bulky on touchable and small screen devices. In those cases, optimization of the screen’s real-estate becomes essential. Other platforms optimized for touch input like Android and iOS are already using a light-weight solution visible only while dragging the content."

I don't see any definition of any problems in there, just some presumptions. I'm not saying scroll couldn't be improved, it's just the approach that I believe is wrong, hence solution in search of a problem.


Cheers,
Mitja