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I agree with Ian. I do NOT want a maximized window to have a separate titlebar. I want the maximized window's controls to be merged into the panel. The titlebar is an enormous waste of space. IMHO it is useless. When a user maximizes a window, space is needed. Once people take some time and get used to this new design, they will understand it and like it better. It makes a lot more sense than the old way of doing things. > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:16:31 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Awesome critical review of Unity > From: kazade@xxxxxxxxx > To: nrundy@xxxxxxxxxxx > CC: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > On 15 April 2011 16:08, nick rundy <nrundy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> This is where the whole thing falls apart quite epically. Now visually > >> the panel is the titlebar of the maximized window, but the contents of > >> it are the focused window, which is likely not the same window. It's a > >> complete WTF? moment and I still think it is ridiculous and confusing. > > > > > > I don't find it confusing at all. (Assuming I am fully understanding what > > you are describing), I did not have any problems acclimating to this design. > > I found it quite intuitive actually. > > > > The panel is now the titlebar of the maximized window, yet it has the > title of the focused window... how is that not confusing? > > >> The worst part of it is that in this situation, the maximized window > >> controls can't just be left where where they SHOULD be, where the user > >> EXPECTS them to be, because the panel has the title and menu of the > >> focused window and it'll be near impossible to tell which window would > >> be closed or resized by clicking them. > > > > > > I do not understand you here. I had no problems whatsoever figuring out > > "which window would be closed or resized." When maximized the controls are > > merged. clicking the buttons affects the maximized window. When not > > maximized, the controls are not present in the panel. The controls are > > exactly where I expect them to be. > > > > I found the global menus intuitive as well. The panel tells what the focused > > app is. move the mouse to the area and menus are present. You can also hit > > F10 to use the menus. > > > > I don't agree with your assessment. Or I don't understand what you are > > describing. > > > > I opened up Empathy. It works like everything else. What exactly is the > > problem? Window not maximmized = controls on the unmaxmized window. Menubar > > on the panel. Panel displays the apps name wehn mouse is not over the panel. > > > > You are missing my point, with Empathy focused, try closing the > maximized window. There is the problem, the maximized window should > have it's controls in it's titlebar like it normally does, like every > other window does, but it doesn't. > > Luke. |