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Re: [Ayatana] A realistic vision of the next iteration of Unity

2011/5/30 Henrik Peytz <henrik.peytz@xxxxxxxxx>
I agree on all points, especially the frustration of not being able to remove the global menu/top panel.

Still though, wouldn't something like what I proposed earlier http://fav.me/d3h14i1 (disregard everything but the traybar in top-right corner) work?

Like elementary's wingpanel you mean? (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/wingpanel-elementarys-slick-new-space-saving-panel/) 

The problem with that would be that it would be counter productive to what we try to achieve with removing the global menu/top panel. By removing it applications could utilize the title bar much more effective: http://i.imgur.com/g6MWM.png

When we don't take up more than one screen edge with the OS interface third party applications can create much more effective applications and really design with Fitt's law in mind.


2011/5/30 Henrik Peytz <henrik.peytz@xxxxxxxxx>
I agree on all points, especially the frustration of not being able to remove the global menu/top panel.

Still though, wouldn't something like what I proposed earlier http://fav.me/d3h14i1 (disregard everything but the traybar in top-right corner) work?

Last I checked, Gnome supported multiple resizable panels. Wouldn't it be a simple matter of defining "this autoscaling, always-on-top panel goes in the the top-right corner and holds all the tray-icons per default"? As far as I see it doesn't violate the standard convention of how tray-icons work, while at the same time allowing for removal of the rest of the panel.

2011/5/29 Ed Lin <edlin280@xxxxxxxxx>
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist
> Ok, should I post these in ayatana-design or should I be more specific?
>
The Expose thing is compiz, most of the other points concern the
launcher so I'd fill them under Unity. Actually I'm not really sure
what ayatana-design should be used for at all.
The ubuntu welcome center needs a different approach, maybe that's
what aytana is for? It's not a needs packaging because it doesn't
exist, it's not a part of core Unity either. It's more of a high level
design/usability goal.

PPA could be filled under ayatana too or directly under "ubuntu", it's
nothing that concerns a single package but is an
infrastructure/management issue.

But I'm no expert on these matters...

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