Re: [Ayatana] "Hybrid" (panel/launcher) top left corner button

[André Oliva <gandreoliva@xxxxxxxxx>]

Window controls *already* are on top left... I think the result of the usability test was that people clicked "home folder" icon on launcher expecting the dash. This solution fixes that usability problem and also keeps the Ubuntu button, and also keeps the window controls at top left (as you say that they're better at top left).

2011/8/26 Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx>

The current design is justified by the motivation to move the window
control buttons to the top left.
Apparently, the usability tests for 11.04 design showed that the
window controls are better on the top left, so they moved the Ubuntu
button out of that location.
Your proposal, although it would probably be very appealing visually,
would be invalidated just because of that.

I proposed moving the Ubuntu button to bottom left, but it seems
nobody liked the
idea:https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg06309.html.
I guess it's because of the Launcher orientation in the mockups... Or,
maybe there is an unwritten rule somewhere that says the Ubuntu button
must be somewhere on top left too. But see, that's the problem... Both
the Ubuntu button and window controls are "required" to be on top
left. Why?? I mean, I also like the idea of moving the window controls
to top right (both on the panel and on windows) and moving the
appindicators to a moveable dock of sorts:
https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg06333.html

Anyway, it seems this design is kind of frozen for Oneiric...

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:56 PM, André Oliva <gandreoliva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes. But really, all the people new to Ubuntu 11.04 that I have seen tries
> to reveal the launcher pointing to the ubuntu button, rather than trying to
> "push" the left side, even if the animation of the launcher suggests that.
> For us, regular users of Ubuntu, it's obvious. For new users, we can not
> suppose it's obvious.
>
> And another think I don't understand about the current design is that there
> is enough space to put somewhere such an useful button on the screen. Why it
> has to be removed? The solution proposed originally by Sashin solves both
> the problem of usability detected in 11.04 and the issues I claim...
>
>
> 2011/8/26 Apoorva Sharma <appi2012@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:27 PM, André Oliva <gandreoliva@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, what do you think about this idea?
>>>
>>> I'm really concerned about how an user new to Ubuntu will react when he
>>> wants to invoke the launcher when a window is maximized with the current
>>> design.
>>>
>>> André.
>>
>> Although this I see your concern, I think that the sliding animation will
>> make it quite obvious where the launcher went. In any case, user testing is
>> needed to make a perfect decision.
>
>