Re: [Ayatana] Making menus easier to find

[Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have to say, I _love_ the application button idea on the corner! The
thing is, it should be confined within the titlebar limits. Think
about vertically (or horizontally ) maximizing the window, or just
tiling it to one side of the screen...


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Stefanos A. <stapostol@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 2011/8/29 Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> On 29 August 2011 03:06, Stefanos A. <stapostol@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > This is Firefox's problem, not ours. The same information is available
>> > on
>> > the address bar and the tab text - i.e. Firefox *triplicates* this
>> > information. I don't think Unity should focus on the design issues of
>> > 3rd-party apps (because if it did, things like the global-menu wouldn't
>> > even
>> > be an option).
>>
>> No, the full webpage title is only available if you mouse over the
>> tab. There is not enough space on the tab to show full webpage titles
>> on many websites.
>
> (a) Why do you need the complete webpage title to be always visible?
> (b) Mozilla has already removed website titles from their windows version.
> The complete title is available only on mouse-over.
> (c) Mozilla are working to improve the situation by displaying only the
> important parts of the title in the tab.
>
>>
>> Ubuntu absolutely should care about apps like Firefox, Epiphany,
>> Chromium, LibreOffice, eog, totem, and many others which use the
>> window title to present important information. Sorry, but you can't
>> just suddenly declare window titles obsolete as a lot of apps use
>> them.
>>
>
> I certainly did not declare anything obsolete. Google did that first, with
> Chrome which doesn't doesn't display webpage titles *at all*. Opera and
> Mozilla followed next. Libreoffice and eog display the filename, which is
> usually small enough to fit in a reduced title bar (as per the OP's
> screenshots). Totem does the same, but also provides the same information in
> the playback list making the title unnecessary.
> I do believe you need to find better examples than those. It appears to me
> that applications are slowly moving away from display important information
> on the titlebar.
> I wonder what the HIG has to say on this topic.
>
>
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