Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Serious issues

I think dash should open in a separate dedicated window. I don't see the reason, when dash is called, why the top panel and the left launcher have to have the visual effect as it has now.

I absolutely agree with your email. Launcher keep getting in the way even when it is not needed.

To develop any consistent system one need to have, non contradicting, independent set of foundations. What I mean here, that first think canonical need to do is to make the foundations clear that it wants to built the unity on.

If unity has to have launcher on the left then there should be well thought reasons for it. Because foundations has to be laid down very carefully as they are not often changeable.

So, If there are enough reason to set that the launcher has to be on left a founding brick, we can proceed to think about a way to avoid it revelation unnecessarily.

If we need to make Ubuntu popular, we need to pay attention to every tiny detail. Compromising and coming up crazy solutions of the problems is not going to help. We need to cross check our set foundations again and again. A consistent set of foundations is necessary for having a consistent system.

For example, for mathematics to stand up as such a consistent system required a axiomatic set up as its foundations.

I tried to think of ways to get rid of the problems that we face in unity but it becomes difficult for me as It is not clear to me, what the foundations are.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 15:55, nick rundy <nrundy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Regarding the Launcher getting out of the way:

I have resorted to completely turning off edge-reveal, which means I can't access the Launcher with mouse alone.

I changed the F1 key to show the Launcher when pressed (default is Ctrl+F1 if memory serves me). So if I want to use the Launcher I HAVE to either press F1 or Super in order to reveal it. I just got sick of the Launcher always revealing when I didn't want it to. I found that I often (unconsciously) place my cursor along the left edge of the screen to get it out of the way when reading stuff on the screen.

> From: gespertino@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:54:09 -0300
> To: isantop@xxxxxxxxx
> CC: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Serious issues
>
> Last week I conducted a workshop on libre graphics tools in an
> important meeting here in Argentina. The attendees were people who
> don't use graphics programs regularly (and most of them don't use
> gnu/linux at all).
> We had Ubuntu 11.10 with Unity in the classroom's computers.
> Unity proved to be a negative experience for most of them. The ugliest
> experience was for people with 17" CRT monitors (some computers had
> them), where the global menu wasn't wide enough to display the menus.
> Launcher popping up everytime they wanted to use the main toolbox
> (GIMP and Inkscape) was another important issue.
> They also experienced problems with focus of applications. Sometimes
> GIMP lost focus and using the menu or switching apps with launcher
> required to make an extra click on GIMP's window.
>
> They were regular people using applications that are available in
> Ubuntu's software centre. They weren't a "minority" who needs to be
> productive with graphic design (as I do).
> Every single person trying to adjust a birthday photo with GIMP or
> trying to create a christmas card for their relatives with Inkscape
> will bump with these issues.
> What's the next excuse? That GIMP and Inkscape are "broken" for Unity
> and their developers should work something that wasn't an issue until
> Unity?
>
> Sorry if this seems like I'm trolling, but It's pretty frustrating to
> get always the same reply when somebody points out a real issue:
> "unity works for the majority. If you can't use it, then you're part
> of a minority that should use anything else".
>
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