Re: [Ayatana] Unity improvement for vision loss people

[Bartosz <gang65@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi.

i don't want desaturate inactive icons.
Every icon has its own background square (backlight).
The idea is toggle it if it is inactive,

I tested it, and it works perfectly. Try it by yourself by using Ccsm.
It is really easy to implement this.

If you don't like this solution, I have several another ideas how to
improve this behaviour.

Best Regards
Bartosz

W dniu 9 stycznia 2012 01:40 użytkownik Ian Santopietro
<isantop@xxxxxxxxx> napisał:
> Desaturating inactive applications in the launcher is a bad idea. It removes
> the ability to recognize different icons based on color. That would leave
> only shape, which isn't enough on it's own, particularly if the current icon
> set has many similar icons (like Faenza).
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> On Jan 8, 2012 3:20 PM, "frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx"
> <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> like i often tell friends and others:
>>
>> imo, a11y and usability are one and the same thing, when we're talking
>> about basic functionality.
>>
>> That is why design should be based on a solid semantic foundation:
>> this way, porting whatever event or state notification to the human
>> sense realms (ayatana) becomes a trivial task of translation.
>>
>> The little arrows are of little semantic value, they could be
>> interpreted as a plentitude of things.
>>
>> To display an application in the launcher in full color regardless
>> whether it is currently active or dormant is in itself already a
>> misleading way of presenting an app. Ccsm offers turning off backlight
>> for inactive apps.
>>
>> This is better, but still not enough from a semantic point of view:
>> i'm still indicating something that isn't there (loaded).
>>
>> Apps that are inactive should be monochrome in the launcher. If
>> possible, their "button" should display a symbolic icon instead of a
>> rich logo. Semantic design is a11y design, but to get that message
>> across to everyone, i'd probably have to prove the concept first, and
>> i'm afraid i'm not up to the challenge quite yet.
>>
>>
>> On 2012-01-06, Matt Wheeler <m@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On 6 January 2012 01:31, Bartosz <gang65@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> Hi.
>> >>
>> >> My friend has a big vision impairment.
>> >> In every day computer usage he is using Windows 7 with big fonts. He is
>> >> using computer for checking the mail (thunderbird), web browsing
>> >> (firefox), and watching the movies (vlc player)
>> >>
>> >> I convinced him to test the Ubuntu for two weeks, and tell me his
>> >> impressions.
>> >>
>> >> I installed Ubuntu 10.10. After enable some accessibility and
>> >> appearance
>> >> set-up, the Ubuntu works like the charm. My friend was very positive
>> >> surprised with the Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > Great! :)
>> >
>> >> Most annoying problem he found:
>> >> - readability of the currently opened applications in launcher - after
>> >> open the new applications he has problems with notice, which
>> >>  application
>> >> are already opened. There is only small arrow on the left side of icon.
>> >> In
>> >> Windows 7 there is no such problem. Is is possible to implement some
>> >> more
>> >> readable look?
>> >> -  readability of the currently active application in launcher -
>> >> Currently
>> >> there is small arrow on the right side of icon. Is it possible to do it
>> >> more readable?
>> >
>> > It's possible to change the appearance of running apps in the launcher
>> > by installing compizconfig-settings-manager and tweaking the settings
>> > in the unity plugin. Perhaps some changes to the launcher's appearance
>> > should be made automatically when choosing low, high or high/inverse
>> > contrast settings, or an option added to the Universal Access settings
>> > (I'm not sure tying it to the contrast option quite fits... anyone?)
>> >
>> >> With this problem solved, the productivity of vision loss with ubuntu
>> >> will
>> >> be much higher.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think about his ideas?
>> >> Do you think it is possible to change this looks in Unuty?
>> >
>> > It's possible for you do do this for your friend right away, we just
>> > need to decide whether we should be doing this by default, and also
>> > whether the current configuration options for the launcher are good
>> > enough from an accessibility point of view. I'm not in any way an
>> > accessibility expert so someone who is should probably look at what
>> > we've got and comment here :)
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt Wheeler
>> > m@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
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