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[Kevin Loughrey <kevinl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Thomas

Thank you for your speedy reply.  It is much appreciated.

I have searched the Internet and MythTV documentation and can't find
this feature documented.  I also can't find any documentation that would
instruct a "newbie" how to disable this "feature".

As much as I can determine, this is a new feature as earlier versions of
MythTV (which I have demonstrated in circumstances where a network
connection was not available), where the backend and frontend were on
the same machine, did not require a network connection in order to
operate.

I suggest therefore that the team review this decision and that this
criteria be abolished or at least that the requirement the network IF be
up not be the default condition.  In the main, newbies will use an
all-in-one configuration, ie, the backend and frontend on the same
machine.  There is no need therefore for this machine to be on a network
except if the user wished to either upgrade the system or use net-based
TV.  Persons who use a separate machine for a backend are on a high
plane of expertise and so would/should be capable of working out how to
configure a script such that the network has to be present for MythTV to
function in those circumstances.

I'd be grateful to hear the opinions of others on this matter.  Possibly
there is something that I do not understand.  (I hope by raising this I
am not distracting people from more important matters.)

Once again thank you.

Kevin Loughrey CPEng
Owner


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Mashos <1077536@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-to: Bug 1077536 <1077536@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: kevinl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Mythbuntu-bugs] [Bug 1077536] Re: MythTV Backend
Configuration Application shows Terminal Screen instead of Graphical
User Interface
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:59:25 -0000


That isn't a bug in the upstart script, that is by design. Most MythTV
installations have a network connection, which is why we wait for
networking to start before starting the backend. You can easily remove that
part of the startup script if you want.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos


On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Kevin Loughrey <kevinl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Dear All
>
> Not sure if I am breaking protocol by writing to you in this manner so
> please excuse me if I am and disregard this correspondence.
>
> I found that my problems ceased when I firstly installed 12.04 and then
> installed 12.10. (This week, I plan to work with another colleague
> installing 12.10 from on a "blank" machine and then compiling from
> source MythTV on that machine to see if a number of other problems I am
> experiencing go away.
>
> Related to that, have you, when you have your MythTV running experienced
> problems with scheduled programs disappearing from the schedule if they
> are set to "Record this show each week"?  Some scheduled programs
> "stick".  Others have to be reset just before a screening for the
> recording to take place.  Next week, they are gone again!  I haven't as
> yet reported it as a bug because it may be that I have just not
> configured MythTV setup properly.
>
> As a final point, something that may be helpful to other enthusiasts,  I
> have discovered there is a fault in the start up script with MythTV in
> that it checks to see if the network interface is up.  If it is not,
> MythTV fails to start.  So if you, as I did, disconnect your notebook
> from the wall or WiFi and take it to seminar to demonstrate the virtues
> and value of Open Source Software, it won't work.   (Luckily I had
> plenty of other material to demonstrate!)  Correcting the "If then else"
> clause in the script fixes the problem.
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
> Kevin Loughrey CPEng
> Owner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Johnston <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-to: Bug 1077536 <1077536@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: kevinl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Bug 1077536] Re: MythTV Backend Configuration Application
> shows Terminal Screen instead of Graphical User Interface
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:24:03 -0000
>
>
> Ok, so the backend did load after doing that, but I didn't have a chance
> to setup my tv at the time, I booted the computer today and I have the
> same problem.  I'm going to let the backend run until it crashes and try
> it again, maybe that's the trick.
>
>
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> Title:
>   MythTV Backend Configuration Application shows Terminal Screen instead
>   of Graphical User Interface
>
> Status in “mythtv” package in Ubuntu:
>   Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
>   This bug relates to:
>   1. Description:       Ubuntu 12.10 Release:   12.10
>   2. Installing a combined MythTV frontend and backend on the same PC.
>   mythtv:
>     Installed: 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
>     Candidate: 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
>     Version table:
>    *** 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1 0
>           500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/multiverse
> amd64 Packages
>           100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>   3. Installing on a PC with a newly installed 12.10 with all updates
> performed.
>   4. Installing the combined MythTV frontend and backend using using the
> Software Center.
>
>   The problem is that, after MythTV installation has been completed, and
>   after performing the actions required by the various dialogue windows,
>   such as logging out and logging in, the backend configuration
>   application will not display a Graphical User Interface.  Instead it
>   only shows a black terminal screen with a blinking cursor.
>
>   I have conducted a number of tests over a number of days on two
>   separate late-model Notebook Computers (a Hewlett Packard Pavilion dv6
>   and a Medion akoya Model No:E6228) to try to ascertain more precisely
>   the nature of this problem.  The results are the same with both
>   computers.
>
>   1. When you perform a fresh installation of Ubuntu 12.04.  Both
> computers will successfully install MythTV, frontend and backend combo,
> using the Software Center installation utility.  Both backend and frontend
> applications can be accessed through a Graphical User Interface. MythTV
> works perfectly.  There is no need for the user to resort to a command line
> to perform any configuration action, such as adding themselves to the
> mythtv users' group.
>   2. When you install Ubuntu 12.04.  Perform all updates. Upgrade to
> 12.10. Perform all updates.  Install MythTV using the software center
> utility.  The MythTV back end configuration application provides the
> necessary Graphical User Interface. MythTV works perfectly.  Similarly
> there is no need for a user to resort to a command line.
>   3. When you perform a totally fresh install of 12.10, perform all
> updates, restart the system, install MythTV, frontend and backend combo,
> using the Software Center facility, the backend configuration utility only
> shows a black terminal screen.  No GUI is displayed.
>
>   ProblemType: Bug
>   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
>   Package: mythtv 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
>   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
>   Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
>   ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
>   Architecture: amd64
>   Date: Sun Nov 11 12:24:52 2012
>   InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-11-10 (0 days ago)
>   InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64
> (20121017.5)
>   Installed_mythtv_dbg: 0.0
>   MarkForUpload: True
>   PackageArchitecture: all
>   SourcePackage: mythtv
>   UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
>
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Title:
  MythTV Backend Configuration Application shows Terminal Screen instead
  of Graphical User Interface

Status in “mythtv” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  This bug relates to:
  1. Description:	Ubuntu 12.10 Release:	12.10
  2. Installing a combined MythTV frontend and backend on the same PC. 
  mythtv:
    Installed: 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
    Candidate: 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
    Version table:
   *** 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1 0
          500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/multiverse amd64 Packages
          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  3. Installing on a PC with a newly installed 12.10 with all updates performed. 
  4. Installing the combined MythTV frontend and backend using using the Software Center.

  The problem is that, after MythTV installation has been completed, and
  after performing the actions required by the various dialogue windows,
  such as logging out and logging in, the backend configuration
  application will not display a Graphical User Interface.  Instead it
  only shows a black terminal screen with a blinking cursor.

  I have conducted a number of tests over a number of days on two
  separate late-model Notebook Computers (a Hewlett Packard Pavilion dv6
  and a Medion akoya Model No:E6228) to try to ascertain more precisely
  the nature of this problem.  The results are the same with both
  computers.

  1. When you perform a fresh installation of Ubuntu 12.04.  Both computers will successfully install MythTV, frontend and backend combo, using the Software Center installation utility.  Both backend and frontend applications can be accessed through a Graphical User Interface. MythTV works perfectly.  There is no need for the user to resort to a command line to perform any configuration action, such as adding themselves to the mythtv users' group.
  2. When you install Ubuntu 12.04.  Perform all updates. Upgrade to 12.10. Perform all updates.  Install MythTV using the software center utility.  The MythTV back end configuration application provides the necessary Graphical User Interface. MythTV works perfectly.  Similarly there is no need for a user to resort to a command line.
  3. When you perform a totally fresh install of 12.10, perform all updates, restart the system, install MythTV, frontend and backend combo, using the Software Center facility, the backend configuration utility only shows a black terminal screen.  No GUI is displayed.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: mythtv 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sun Nov 11 12:24:52 2012
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-11-10 (0 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  Installed_mythtv_dbg: 0.0
  MarkForUpload: True
  PackageArchitecture: all
  SourcePackage: mythtv
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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