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[Thomas Mashos <1077536@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Kevin,

The backend starts when any network interface that isn't lo is up (and
the other conditions are met). This accounts for most user situations.
We've made the decision to wait for networking to start because systems
are becoming fast enough that they would finish starting before any
networking was up, causing the backend to not listen on any external
interface.

You mention that people with more than one system are more experienced
people. I disagree. With the number of devices in people's homes
(tablets/phones/computers), it is more likely that someone will want to
attach use one of these devices to access their MythTV system in some
way (eg. third party frontend, remote control, etc). I don't believe
that most of the new users you talk about would take their systems off
network in order to watch tv. Most of those cases would be laptops, and
those shouldn't be MythTV backends unless they are used for
demonstration purposes (and IMO, anybody doing a MythTV demonstration
should be one of the more experienced users you talk about and thus able
to edit the upstart file). Now for those more experienced users, that
have a system that needs to be off network (eg. they are giving a
demonstration, they never put their system on a network), there is an
easy way to configure what you are asking for (eg. removing the net-
device-up requirement). Any changes made to this file don't get
overwritten by the packaging.

Now I'm more than willing to keep discussing this with you, but I can't
think of a reason that we would change this. There are simply more
reasons to keep it than revert the change. If you can give some solid
reasons why we should revert the change and ignore all the users that
needed that in the first place (there were a not insignificant amount of
users that were having issues with the backend starting before
networking), I'll certainly entertain the idea.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos

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Title:
  MythTV Backend Configuration Application shows Terminal Screen instead
  of Graphical User Interface

Status in “mythtv” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  This bug relates to:
  1. Description:	Ubuntu 12.10 Release:	12.10
  2. Installing a combined MythTV frontend and backend on the same PC. 
  mythtv:
    Installed: 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
    Candidate: 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
    Version table:
   *** 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1 0
          500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/multiverse amd64 Packages
          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  3. Installing on a PC with a newly installed 12.10 with all updates performed. 
  4. Installing the combined MythTV frontend and backend using using the Software Center.

  The problem is that, after MythTV installation has been completed, and
  after performing the actions required by the various dialogue windows,
  such as logging out and logging in, the backend configuration
  application will not display a Graphical User Interface.  Instead it
  only shows a black terminal screen with a blinking cursor.

  I have conducted a number of tests over a number of days on two
  separate late-model Notebook Computers (a Hewlett Packard Pavilion dv6
  and a Medion akoya Model No:E6228) to try to ascertain more precisely
  the nature of this problem.  The results are the same with both
  computers.

  1. When you perform a fresh installation of Ubuntu 12.04.  Both computers will successfully install MythTV, frontend and backend combo, using the Software Center installation utility.  Both backend and frontend applications can be accessed through a Graphical User Interface. MythTV works perfectly.  There is no need for the user to resort to a command line to perform any configuration action, such as adding themselves to the mythtv users' group.
  2. When you install Ubuntu 12.04.  Perform all updates. Upgrade to 12.10. Perform all updates.  Install MythTV using the software center utility.  The MythTV back end configuration application provides the necessary Graphical User Interface. MythTV works perfectly.  Similarly there is no need for a user to resort to a command line.
  3. When you perform a totally fresh install of 12.10, perform all updates, restart the system, install MythTV, frontend and backend combo, using the Software Center facility, the backend configuration utility only shows a black terminal screen.  No GUI is displayed.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: mythtv 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120801.46cab93-0ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7
  Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sun Nov 11 12:24:52 2012
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-11-10 (0 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  Installed_mythtv_dbg: 0.0
  MarkForUpload: True
  PackageArchitecture: all
  SourcePackage: mythtv
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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