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[Ewan Mellor <Ewan.Mellor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

If you believe that that's true, then we should get Amazon to redefine the EC2 spec to match the reality of what's in the field.

Ewan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Soren Hansen [mailto:soren@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 08 July 2011 05:40
> To: Ewan Mellor
> Cc: Thorsten von Eicken; openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Cross-zone instance identifiers in EC2 API -
> Is it worth the effort?
> 
> 2011/7/8 Ewan Mellor <Ewan.Mellor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> The whole point of supporting the EC2 API is to support people's
> >> existing tools and whatnot. If we follow the spec, but the clients
> >> don't work, we're doing it wrong.
> > True enough.  However, in the case where we've got a demonstrated
> divergence from the spec, we should report that against the client.  I
> agree that we want to support pre-existing tools, but it's less clear
> that we want to support _buggy_ tools.
> 
> We do. We have to. We have no way to know what sort of clients people
> are using. We can only attempt to check the open source ones, but
> there's likely loads of other ones that people have built themselves
> and never shared. Not only do people have to be able, motivated and
> allowed to change their tools to work with OpenStack, they also need
> to *realise* that this is something that needs to happen. We can't
> assume the symptoms they'll experience even gives as much as a hint
> that the ID's they're getting back is too long. They may just get a
> general error of some sort.
> 
> If we a) expect people to consume the EC2 API we expose, and (more
> importantly) b) expect ISP's to offer this API to their customers, it
> needs to be as close to "just another EC2 region" as possible.
> 
> > If Amazon turn out to be resistant to fixing that problem, then we'll
> obviously have to accept that and move on, but we should at least give
> them a chance to respond on that.
> 
> Amazon is not the problem. At least not the only problem. I'm not even
> going to begin to guess how many different tools exist to talk to the
> EC2 API.
> 
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