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Message #04297
Re: Community metrics, developers' engagement
I'm not trying to hide reality (any more than all statistics do). I think that it's reasonable to look at the activity in the project as an aggregate over multiple release cycles. I also think that it's reasonable to treat the ramping phase differently to the one that it's currently in, with the community more stable in size and activity. These two things point to analysis over the past year, since OpenStack is a little over a year old, and the release cycle is 6 months long.
Ewan.
From: Jan Drake [mailto:jan_drake@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 September 2011 22:38
To: Ewan Mellor; stefano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Openstack] Community metrics, developers' engagement
Stefano, please drop me a line, I may be able to help you with metrics that position openstack more solidly in the open source community and help with metrics that mean something to enterprises whom are trying to make decisions 'twixt openstack and other emergent open source offerings.
Ewan, statistics should never hide reality (they already do that by accident)... and averages are already vague enough by definition. The real history of the project as a whole and each project individually over time is as important, at least, as the running averages over any x period of time.
I've been working on evaluating open source projects in terms of risk and potential and obfuscated metrics won't help people understand the emergent energy of projects nor the real participatory velocity of projects.
Mr. Heck: Oddly timely based on our text conversations, ya think? ;)
Jan Drake
> From: Ewan.Mellor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: stefano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:43:47 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Community metrics, developers' engagement
>
> Great stuff Stefano. These are going to be very valuable metrics.
>
> To start with, I'd draw your "commits per month" graph with a 1 year x-axis. This is a reasonable baseline for historical stats, and has the particular advantage in this case that it trims off the start-up phase of the project, so the average should go way up.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ewan.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: openstack-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:openstack-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Stefano Maffulli
> > Sent: 23 September 2011 17:34
> > To: openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Community metrics, developers' engagement
> >
> > 2011/9/8 Stefano Maffulli <smaffulli@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > > in the next weeks I would like to start collecting some relevant data
> > > about the OpenStack community. One of the reasons for this effort is
> > > to understand it and communicate it to the outsiders better.
> >
> > I've spent a few cycles putting together some more thoughts and tools
> > to measure the engagement of contributors in OpenStack community. The
> > grand plan is to build a beautiful dashboard using business
> > intelligence tools, like Pentaho or something similar. I've started
> > putting down thoughts and ideas about the datawarehouse on
> > http://etherpad.openstack.org/CommunityMetrics.
> >
> > Before we get there we'll need raw data, so I've started playing around
> > with the tools provided by the folks at FLOSSMetrics
> > https://projects.libresoft.es/, especially mailingliststats and
> > CVSanaly2. CVSanaly2 is a tool that extracts information out of source
> > code repository logs and stores it into a database. It works well with
> > git, so I fooled around with it on the nova, swift and glance
> > repositories (see the attached plot, as an example). I'll publish the
> > queries I used on the wiki early next wee. I'm planning also to play
> > with gitdm to see the difference.
> >
> > I haven't spent too much brain power on the analysis of discussions on
> > mailing list because the mlstats tool expects the archives to be in a
> > form that we don't have at the moment. I'll do this later, or if
> > somebody wants to help me grab me on IRC (I'm reed there).
> >
> > Hope you like this and makes you want to tell me what you want to see
> > tracked and measured.
> >
> > cheers,
> > stef
>
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