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[Jim Evans <iago.evans@xxxxxxxxx>]

Oracles?

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On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> To be clear (and I blame myself for using the term "shop" in my
> reply), the goal certainly is NOT to monetize or marketize in the
> ecosystem. I should have used the term "peruse the Bazaar" or "sit
> around the OpenStack town square and talk to the soap-box oracles". I
> don't know. Sometimes I wonder why simple ideas like this are met with
> such disdain...
>
> -jay
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Jan Drake <jan_drake@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Well, if the goal is to create a marketplace for openstack compatible products... meaning a place to find solutions built on and around openstack core (monetization is not my point)... then great... if the point is to aggregate ephemera then that seems like simply a directory/repository of individual code/configuration chunks that smacks more of utilities for dealing with the core in which case: blah.
>>
>> Like any platform, openstack needs an easy way to demonstrate its value in an ecosystem and a repository for value adding applications would help with that.
>>
>> And yes... there's an app for that.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:47 PM, John Dickinson <me@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> What benefits does an openstack-satellite project bring? Other than all using some openstack component, what do these projects have in common that justifies grouping them? For example, I know of many open source projects that use swift (swauth, slogging, cyberduck, all the rackspace language bindings, several iOS apps, a few dashboards), and I can't seem to see why they would benefit by being grouped into one umbrella.
>>>
>>> That's the whole point, John... *you* know which open source projects
>>> use swift (because you're a contributor to Swift). I wouldn't have any
>>> clue what projects use Swift unless I was a contributor to OpenStack.
>>> There is no place to go to see the variety of projects that are being
>>> built to *consume* OpenStack APIs, to extend OpenStack projects, to
>>> implement OpenStack APIs in different languages or using different
>>> backends/algorithms, etc.
>>>
>>> The point of the satellite project, as I understand the proposal, is
>>> to have a place for the broader community (i.e. not Python core
>>> project developers) to upload code and configuration snippets,
>>> advertise alternate implementations, and in general have a place to
>>> search the ecosystem of OpenStack stuff. What the could be wrong with
>>> that?
>>>
>>> About 5 years ago, I built MySQL Forge (http://forge.mysql.com/) for
>>> similar purposes -- as a place for the MySQL project ecosystem to
>>> live, big or small projects, code snippets, etc. That interface is
>>> admittedly dated and needs work to prevent things like spam, but then
>>> again, so does our wiki! The point is that not everyone is a) a Python
>>> developer, b) cares about Python development, c) wants or needs to
>>> contribute at all. I think it's a good idea to have a place where
>>> people can go "shop the OpenStack bazaar" so to speak... :)
>>>
>>> -jay
>>>
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