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Message #04469
Re: Messaging level auth
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To:
Mike Scherbakov <mihgen@xxxxxxxxx>
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From:
Joshua Harlow <harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Sat, 1 Oct 2011 18:18:52 -0700
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[Openstack] Messaging level auth
The question is more along the lines of this:
So say u have ssl enabled, which is good.
But should all actions/messages on the message queue also be verified before they are applied as coming from the correct user?
Say u have an initial API call that says make me a server for user X.
Now the scheduler gets that, it should then again verify that X can make a server (and so on).
This kind of verification (time sensitive also) should seem like it would be useful, complimenting SSL for each component that receives a message.
This would stop malicious (or limit) users hacking the message queue and spawning requests themselves. Just a thought.
On 9/29/11 8:11 PM, "Mike Scherbakov" <mihgen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Joshua,
your question scares me :)
Actually you can define user/pass for rabbitmq:
See in rpc/impl_kombu.py, which is used by default:
308 self.params = dict(hostname=FLAGS.rabbit_host,
309 port=FLAGS.rabbit_port,
310 userid=FLAGS.rabbit_userid,
311 password=FLAGS.rabbit_password,
312 virtual_host=FLAGS.rabbit_virtual_host)
But this seems to be not secured connection, since I don't see here usage of SSL.
In rpc/impl_carrot.py:
66 params = dict(hostname=FLAGS.rabbit_host,
67 port=FLAGS.rabbit_port,
68 ssl=FLAGS.rabbit_use_ssl,
69 userid=FLAGS.rabbit_userid,
70 password=FLAGS.rabbit_password,
71 virtual_host=FLAGS.rabbit_virtual_host)
but I never tried this carrot and don't know if it works.
Can someone else clarify the question? It seems important in terms of security.
Thanks,
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Joshua Harlow <harlowja@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A quick security question.
Is there any plan to force authentication/authorization of the rabbitmq messages?
Right now it seems like keystone (tbd) will protect the external<->openstack layers but what about the openstack<->openstack layers.
If someone got access to the rabbitmq it seems like without this kind of layer bad things could happen (create me 1000 nodes...).
Has there been any thought in that area?
-Josh
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