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[Duncan McGreggor <duncan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 06 Dec 2011 - 10:11, Duncan McGreggor wrote:
> On 06 Dec 2011 - 14:28, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> > So the general consensus so far on this discussion seems to be:
> >
> > (0) The "2011.3 release" PPA bears false expectations and should be
> > removed now. In the future, we should not provide such PPAs: 0-day
> > packages for the release should be available from the "last milestone"
> > PPA anyway.
> >
> > (1) OpenStack, as an upstream project, should focus on development
> > rather than on providing a production-ready distribution.
> >
> > (2) We could provide "daily builds" from the stable/diablo branch for a
> > variety of releases (much like what we do for the master branch), but
> > those should be clearly marked "not for production use" and be
> > best-effort only (like our master branch builds).
> >
> > (3) This should not prevent a group in the community from working on a
> > project providing an "openstack on Lucid" production-ready distribution
> > if they so wishes. This project would just be another distribution of
> > OpenStack.
>
> This doesn't seem like enough to me. OpenStack isn't just a library;
> it's a fairly substantial collection of software and services, intended
> to be used as a product. If it can't be used as a product, what's the
> use?
>
> Someone

It was Loic Dachary. He said:

"""
However, as it evolves towards a system widely used in production, it
will face new challenges and the communities working on packaging for
each distribution will provide valuable input to developers. Creating a
"packaging team" with representatives for each distribution and electing
someone to represent them in the Policy Board could achieve this.
"""

d

> made the suggestion that a new OpenStack group be started, one
> whose focus is on producing a production-ready, distribution-ready,
> release of the software. So can we add one more (need some help with
> wording, here...):
>
> (4) OpenStack will accept and foster a new project, one that is not
> focused on development, but rather the distribution and it's general
> stability. This distro project will be responsible for advocating on
> behalf of various operating systems/distros/sponsoring vendors for bugs
> that affect performance and stability of OpenStack, or prevent an
> operating system from running OpenStack.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> d