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[Duncan McGreggor <duncan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 06 Dec 2011 - 13:52, Duncan McGreggor wrote:
> On 06 Dec 2011 - 21:14, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> > Tim Bell wrote:
> > > I'm not clear on who will be maintaining the stable/diablo  branch.
> > > The people such as EPEL for RedHat systems need to have something
> > > with the appropriate bug fixes back ported.
> > >
> > > There are an increasing number of sites looking to deploy in
> > > production and cannot follow the latest development version.
> >
> > Agreed on the need, we discussed this at length during the design
> > summit. The stable branches have been established and are maintained by
> > the "OpenStack Stable Branch Maintainers" team. Currently this team is
> > mostly made of distribution members (Ubuntu and Fedora/RedHat, mostly)
> > collaborating on a single branch to avoid duplication of effort.
> >
> > See:
> > https://launchpad.net/~openstack-stable-maint
> > http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch
>
> Okay, I think this mostly addresses item #4 that I wanted to add to your
> summary, Thierry.
>
> I do have the following minor concerns, though:
>
>  * that wiki page's summary (intro sentence) only specifically mentions
>    Diablo; I'd like to see something along the lines of "currently
>    focusing on Diablo. If these processes evolve into a successful
>    model, they will be applied to all future releases."
>
>  * the discussion on the page treats this as an experiment (this is
>    good!), but I'd like to see a phrase alone the lines of "if this
>    experiment is successful, we will do X to ensure these processes
>    become an official part of the workflow."
>
> These are tiny things, but I think they will better set expectations and
> give more warm fuzzies to organizations thinking about deploying
> OpenStack in production environments, seeing that we're considering the
> long-term (given success of the experiment).
>
> In addition, I would like to emphasize Tim's point from earlier, though:
> it's not just packaging... he said it very well, so I'll quote:
>
> > Tim Bell wrote:
> > > We need more than 'just' packaging.... it is using the testing,
> > > documentation and above all care to produce *and* maintain a stable
> > > release that production sites can rely on for 6-12 months and know
> > > that others are relying on it too.
>
> I would like to see verbage reflecting Tim's concerns added to the wiki
> page as well.
>
>  * What is the QA/testing story?
>
>  * What is the documentation story?
>
>  * What is the support cycle story?

Yikes! I forgot an incredibly important one:

 * What is the migration path story (diablo to essex, essex to f, etc.)?

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> Ghe Rivero, Michael Pittaro, Tim Bell: does the stable maintenance team
> address your concerns?
>
> d