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[Rick Clark <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

No offense Jonathan, but this seems like meaningless fluff.  Does
Rackspace have anyone dedicated to this fulltime?  The lack of
leadership on this is apparent.  If this was important, appropriate
dedicated resources would be assigned to it. As it is, it appears to be
a stalling tactic.

Rackspace has become a smaller and smaller percentage of the Openstack
universe.  It is unreasonable that it should control the foundation
process. Especially if they are going to take months between updates and
have no visible community participation.

Rackspace needs to hand the process over to a provisional community
group that will pursue a foundation with vigor.

Rick Clark

On 01/04/2012 10:11 PM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
> To adapt Mark Twain, rumors of the death of the foundation are greatly exaggerated. = )  I hadn't actually heard that rumor yet and don't know where it would be coming from, so thanks for bringing it up so we can address.
> 
> First of all, the foundation is definitely not dead or indefinitely delayed. Sorry for not communicating the status better on the list. There's been a lot of response, and we've been trying to coordinate input from a number of sources. We've also been researching the technical details of what we need to make it happen. At the same time we have not had enough resources to dedicate to it up to this point. To correct that, we've got some additional people, including Mark Collier whom many of you know, working on it as of the beginning of this year to make the foundation happen.
> 
> We also realized we needed to take the initial round of feedback and produce something for people to respond to, tear apart, cheer for, make better. We've tried to take the the feedback from a variety of forums--the session at the design summit, the initial burst of discussion on the list, the input from of in-person meetings and people who have reached out to us directly--and formulate a set of documents to guide the discussion. The first two are a draft mission document for the foundation and a draft of the foundation's organization structure. The mission document is very close to being ready to publish. We will be posting it on the wiki in the next few days. The structure document is still going through revisions but will follow shortly. Following the structure document, we'll get into the process of drafting the actual legal documents for the foundation. We will be linking all of these off the Governance section of the wiki and publishing them for feedback on the list a
s well as reaching back out to the other community members we've talked to.
> 
> So what can you do? Once the documents are posted, we really want feedback from everyone on them. As they're posted and we get feedback, we'll refine them and post final versions on the website. In the meantime, also continue to discuss whatever points you feel are important on the mailing list. We're reading everything and incorporating what's talked about.
> 
> And anyone can always reach out to me or Mark directly if you have questions or comments. Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Jan Drake wrote:
> 
>> So, no messages since October.  Rumor has it the effort is dead or indefinitely delayed... what's the deal?
>>
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>> From: jan_drake@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:18:46 -0700
>>> To: sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> CC: foundation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack Mission & Goals
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Sandy Walsh <sandy.walsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> How can you decide if you want to join a foundation if you don't know what it stands for?
>>>>
>>>> -S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> I think a discussion about what OpenStack is and isn't should
>>>> definitely be had before the Foundation is set up. Otherwise, I
>>>> imagine people will view the Foundation as being some sort of Wild
>>>> West land grab, where companies are trying to shape what OpenStack is
>>>> by fiat or by trying to buy control.
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought,
>>>> -jay
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