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[Joshua McKenty <joshua@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dumping this back onto the lists... 

I believe the primary challenge with the Apache foundation is that it's not structured well to fund marketing or evangelism activities, nor is it designed to take in new members that are primarily interested in a single project. OpenStack is large enough to justify its own organization, and I don't think anyone objects to that foundation being "friendly" to commercial activities - that's part of why we're Apache2 licensed. We just need to balance the commercial mechanics with the community mechanics.

This is a hard problem - I don't believe ANY open source project has ever had this much commercial involvement, and certainly not this early in its evolution. But if we want to continue to have a community that's supportive of participation by a diverse set of stakeholders, we all need to speak up.  

On Friday, March 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Thor Wolpert wrote:

> Joshua:
> 
> I have not been following this, but had thought that the Foundation
> was being modelled on the Apache Group. I did ask a couple of times,
> and did get responses that this was the case. What it sounds like is
> it continues to stray from that, and that could be the desire of some
> special interest groups.
> 
> I thought a Foundation that paid for legal, marketing and core
> services; along with a hosted set of projects whose membership was
> based upon meritocracy was the model.
> 
> It is sounding like that is not going to be the case. Maybe starting
> a new Foundation wasn't the right way to go and asking instead to be a
> sub-project of the Apache Group, added in through the incubator
> would've been better?
> 
> 
> > 
> > With (attempted) diplomacy,
> > 
> > Joshua
> > 
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