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Message #09581
Re: OpenStack immaturity
Essex is a key release in this respect. With the excellent work done by the developers, testers and packaging teams, OpenStack is much better positioned than with Diablo.
As the work proceeds on Folsom, back porting critical bugs and planning for a smooth migration path for production sites will become factors in keeping the early adopters enthusiastic. These are the user stories that will drive the next wave of OpenStack growth as much as expanding the feature set.
Tim Bell
CERN
From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern.ch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern.ch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jan Drake
Sent: 04 April 2012 16:37
To: Razique Mahroua
Cc: openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack immaturity
Hmmmm. While ease of deployment is definitely "an area of future strength" for OS, the gap is closing rapidly and the reality for the enterprise is that initial, comparable (apples to apples) VMWare installations all come with an initial professional services engagement anyway.
Having just done a bake-off twixt the latest OS builds and VMWare for creating an enterprise private IaaS cloud, my strategic money's on OpenStack and the community is starting to make significant in-roads on the tactical value as well.
Lots of "areas of future strength" but the promise remains immense and the feasibility for the enterprise continues to grow.
Keep up the good work. Keep Calm, Carry On, and all that.
Jan
PS: Anybody got an extra ticket to the design summit?
On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Razique Mahroua <razique.mahroua@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The "immaturity" being exposed here has nothing to do with neither stability nor bugs - in fact the angle is more about an ease of deployment.
Such statements are not new, and well known from "enterprises" point of view.
I remember same articles about Linux, few years back about Zimbra, few months back about proxmox, etc...
This is an endless statement : "Is it possible for a community-driven project to find it's place in business needs ?" The answer for Openstack is NO, when it comes to ease of deployment compared to VMmware, and any CLI-less required installers...
But even if fantastic progress has been made, on the different projects, let's face it, even more progress are required today to give a satisfaction to the OP.
Let's keep working as we are doing : fixing, testing, thinking, updating.
When all the projects will be stable enough to work on a same level - I'm quite confident we could see more positives feedbacks from Gartner
Nuage & Co - Razique Mahroua
razique.mahroua@xxxxxxxxx
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Le 4 avr. 2012 à 14:48, Jacek Artymiak a écrit :
It depends on what you expect OpenStack to do for you. If you want
pre-packaged, click-to-install software, it is not there, yet. But if
you want to be able to influence the future of the project you want to
bet your business on, you have a much higher chance of doing that with
OpenStack than with other projects in this space.
Just my $.02 worth.
Jacek Artymiak
author: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/programmer/content/
(please submit patches so we can improve this document)
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sébastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi everyone,
According to the statement of this article from Gartner
group http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/ Openstack is a
highly immature platform.
But why? What's make Openstack so immature?
Any comments on that?
Thank you in advance :)
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