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[Matt Joyce <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Makes sense to me.
On Apr 27, 2012 2:27 PM, "Everett Toews" <everett.toews@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I like this idea but what happens to the openstack-operators list in this
> scenario?
>
> I don't think we'd want to have the openstack and openstack-operators list
> going along in parallel since it sounds like they would overlap. I propose
> that the members of the openstack-operators list would be (automatically or
> manually) migrated to the openstack list. Then the openstack-operators list
> would be set to read-only or maybe even removed completely to avoid
> confusion.
>
> Comments? Feedback?
>
> Everett
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> TL;DR summary:
>> Due to traffic exploding, we will split the current openstack list into
>> user / usage topics (openstack list) and development / next-version
>> topics (openstack-dev list).
>>
>> Long version:
>>
>> At the "Communication" session at the design summit [1] we looked at the
>> state of our communication media in general, and mailing-list in
>> particular [2].
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> http://folsomdesignsummit2012.sched.org/event/366accca0fda271fc23e82b9cb5162cc
>> [2] http://etherpad.openstack.org/FolsomCommunication
>>
>> The traffic on the openstack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx list doubled in the
>> last 4 months [3], with more users and deployers asking for information
>> on OpenStack projects. It becomes difficult for contributors to properly
>> prioritize their ML reading, and we can no longer have all the
>> discussions in the same place.
>>
>> [3] http://openstack.markmail.org/
>>
>> The proposal is to split between:
>>
>> 1/ Usage, deployment, Essex / current-stable discussions
>> 2/ Development, contribution, Folsom / forward-looking discussions
>>
>> A new list will be created for (2) and existing contributors will be
>> asked to subscribe to that new list.
>>
>> Since we expect to have a more disciplined/focused group in that new
>> list, we'll define a set of subject prefixes that should be used for
>> easier client-side/at-a-glance filtering of discussions:
>>
>> [General] Affects all projects
>> [Swift] [Nova] [Glance] [Quantum] [Horizon] [Keystone] Project-specific
>> [Common] openstack-common
>> [QA] [CI] [Docs] Discussions / Information on specific topics
>> [...] Add your own here
>>
>> To keep that list usable, I suggest we aggressively enforce those topics
>> and redirect inappropriate discussions to the other list when necessary.
>>
>> To avoid Launchpad list slowness, we would run the new openstack-dev
>> list off lists.openstack.org. Given the potential hassle of dealing with
>> spam and delivery issues on mission-critical MLs, we are looking into
>> the possibility of outsourcing the maintenance of lists.openstack.org to
>> a group with established expertise running mailman instances. Please let
>> us know ASAP if you could offer such services. We are not married to
>> mailman either -- if an alternative service offers good performance and
>> better integration (like OpenID-based subscription to integrate with our
>> SSO), we would definitely consider it.
>>
>> There was a suggestion during the session of using umbrella/siblings
>> lists to aggregate content from multiple project-specific sublists. I
>> reviewed the options and I think it introduces a lot of complexity,
>> reduces flexibility in adding new topics, so client-side filtering
>> sounds like a better bet. If most people use subject prefixes
>> appropriately, keeping it simple is probably the best bet.
>>
>> We'll let you know when the new list is set up.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
>> Release Manager, OpenStack
>>
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