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[Devin Carlen <devin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

-1 to introducing formal processes around this.  This will happen from time to time.  Development may be briefly impacted on other platforms but hindering innovation and telling developers that they are responsible for package availability across every distro is not healthy.

You are concerned about Fedora which is a perfectly reasonable stance.  But what about CentOS, RHEL, Debian, etc.

I for once don't want to have my technical options limited by whether or not a package is currently maintained by a distro.  We have a lot of reach into these communities and we are still in the earliest stages of Folsom.  There is plenty of time to deal with this.

That said, this is why we made this change in the *first* milestone, and not a week before release. ;)


Devin




On May 24, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:

> That’s what I was worried about, and why I (just my opinion) think that we need to be a lot stricter about vetting new dependencies.
> 
> There needs to be time given to say, ensuring that its really needed, if it really is, documenting why it has to be there in depth, getting various PTL’s to agree on that, then comes the process of informing and/or discussing with the distributions about how to get that supported (if it isn’t). That second stage might influence the first and so on. 
> 
> Since problems like this, although yes, it slows down development overall, seem necessary in a larger project with multiple distributions being enabled (for development usage and for actual prod. usage). 
> 
> On 5/24/12 3:38 PM, "Russell Bryant" <rbryant@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On 05/24/2012 03:40 PM, Devin Carlen wrote:
> > Hi Joshua,
> >
> > Node.js is in the standard repos for most modern distros.  It's not an
> > issue for Ubuntu/Fedora.
> 
> It actually is a problem for Fedora.  node.js is not in Fedora.  Once
> Horizon requires node.js, it will be broken for Fedora (and EPEL for use
> with RHEL and its derivatives).
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815018
> 
> --
> Russell Bryant
>